>> Sorry but it was me who managed not only the graduation, but everything else.
I really need to chime in here otherwise people might believe these statements for truth. These are flat out lies. The only thing that you did was point out that my the Java service was down and CI was broken. That is a far stretch from actual doing things like fixing the Java service on the VM, fixing CI, updating the website, contributing to releases, or graduating this project. I scanned the commit history for our website, I cannot find a single update from you: https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/devicemap/site/trunk/ You definitely had no role in the graduation process, I spent a good 2 weeks doing all of the graduation tasks with much help from Bertrand. The fact that you take credit for graduating this project is sad. I look at your SVN commit history all the time, you have no releases and your commits amount to pretty much tweaking the legacy ODDR poms around and changing the version number to compete with the 1.x releases. Are you aware that you constantly lie and manipulate the truth in your emails? To a newcomer, they probably read your emails and believe this stuff... which is scary. >> Records in this and other threads speak for themselves. Please please please start citing these records and threads. Otherwise you are presenting nothing but a distorted reality. On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Werner Keil <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry but it was me who managed not only the graduation, but everything > else. > CI server down for months. The website was out of date for many weeks after > the graduation. > The VM instance happened to be broken or stopped several times when people > wanted to test it during conferences. I had to ask Reza to start it. > At least one on this list who also contributed was willing to help, but > nobody bothered to accept his help till I took another management > responsibility in my own hands and started a ballot which we fortunately. > > Records in this and other threads speak for themselves. The evidence is > right, no need to deny any of that. > The false impression that I was "co PMC Chair" by Reza himself says enough. > I WAS doing what he volunteered to do all the time;-) > > I don't see a problem to have him as committer/PMC member, should he decide > to stay, but e.g. Bertrand until someone really qualified should volunteer > again was clearly a better choice to act as PMC chair. I did most of the > other managing like votes for new committers, etc. Happy to help with that > as well. > > Cheers, > Werner > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Reza Naghibi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > ...Instead of focusing on writing > > > and releasing software, all my time and energy is spent on how to > manage > > > Werner.... > > > > I think we now have abundant evidence that you and Werner cannot work > > together - evaluating who's right and who's wrong does not help much, > > but maybe we can find a creative solution that would cause you to > > reconsider, at least temporarily. > > > > How about defining a "perimeter" in our code and specs that Werner is > > not allowed to touch or discuss? It can be as simple as a subtree in > > our source code tree, and a wiki subtree. > > > > Combined with a ban (amicable or formal) of email arguments between > > you guys, this might be a workable solution, that we can try for say 3 > > months to see if things improve. > > > > That's unusual in an Apache project, and if this team was larger > > things would probably self-regulate, but with such a small team it's > > hard to find a balance without resorting to such artificial barriers. > > > > What do people think? > > > > -Bertrand > > >
