Sorry but you know the one who insists to "kill" and wipe out everything he
does not like is Reza.
(enough mail threads on that)

Neither I nor others take his breathing space, he just prefers to breath
and think in a small box excluding or even fiercly figthing (that's where
things usually got personal from his end) other people's ideas. It was more
than once he just committed stuff without  a proper ballot. The most severe
case ruined data by putting unsolicitated and unapproved class names in
there. The only reason why the DDR client was not out at the time.

And you see in Volkan's roadmap in the thread about his hackathon he
submitted entire patches that Reza didn't even ignore since then. Nor
coming up with suggestions for constructive people willing to help. So
let's hope other new committer candidates aren't scared by that way? At
least outside Apache you see every few months or even weeks some new
clients arise.

They rely on a trustworthy set of data that doesn't change just to please a
single client, API or the person behind it.

No proper Apache (or similar Open Source) project leaves a "scorched-earth
policy" deliberately destroying parts of the codebase just because one or
two team members don't like that part of the codebase, or can you name such
a project?;-)
We all know WURFL did that, but a key reason for our efforts that lead to
DeviceMap is offering an alternative, not act the same way they did again...

Werner

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <[email protected]
> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Werner Keil <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > ...the most important aspect
> > is how to get data into a new format without losing the precious
> > information we got about Ten Thousands of devices so far....
>
> Yes, but if this project dies because Reza leaves as you're not
> leaving enough space for him to breathe, which is very likely to
> happen IMO, that will be lost for the ASF anyway.
>
> -Bertrand
>

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