Stefan,

Besides, I am not sure, to what extent you tested any of the clients, but
the full W3C implementation recognizes some actual details of browser and
OS (like exact OS version) while the Qualifier will only return what's in
the XML data files. I personally don't see why users should have to wait
till a still (at best) months away "2.0" JSON based version to get this
right when a decent and reasonable look into the actual UA string gives you
all you need;-O Reza thinks it's not worth fixing that now, and Qualifier
is "his baby" so if you want to improve that, ask to help him with it (just
like Volkan tried with other aspects like performance)

Cheers,
Werner

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Werner Keil <werner.k...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Standards are given by those who define it, so neither the W3C DDR API nor
> the CC/PP standard also by W3C (and related JSR 188
> https://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=188) may seem "modern" or "sexy".
> Yet, there are many large customers who use them or even more
> "archeological" ones like CORBA or IMS/Host (just chewing on such "dinosaur
> bone" for current client;-)
>
> I was asked to explore tapping into devicemap from the Java Portlet
> standard and this standard supports CC/PP:
> https://portals.apache.org/pluto/portlet-2.0-apidocs/javax/portlet/PortletRequest.html#CCPP_PROFILE
> Therefore as with all standards, referring to another standard is OK,
> however old or "clumsy" it may seem.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Werner
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Stefan Seelmann <m...@stefan-seelmann.de>
> wrote:
>
>> On 07/14/2015 01:02 AM, Werner Keil wrote:
>> > Glad to see so many care about W3C standards After all or pay tribute to
>> > the fact, that people check it out or use it ;-)
>> > And e.g. Stefan's recent input also indicates they do.
>>
>> Well, I think you understood me wrong.
>>
>> I can't speak for others, but I only checked out the SVN trunk because
>> I'm courious and interested in the project, then I grepped for 'firefox'
>> and found some of the specialized builder classes. I don't 'use' the W3C
>> client, I just did a quick evaluation, and I was not very happy with it
>> (performance, no detection of firefox/windows, clumsy API)
>>
>> From an Apache project I expect that there are official releases of
>> their flagship software, but the website just guides me to one client
>> and the data.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Stefan
>>
>
>

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