Hi,

2005/6/29, Emmanuel Lecharny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The Directory Server is not an app server, but do keep in mind that when we are embedding, the better citizen that we can be in that embedded environment, the better.  And we also have components of our own, since as triggers, stored procedures, etc.

Guys, actually a lot of the Apache DS code is based on commons-log,
other parts rely on java.util.logging, and the remaining use log4j.
 
I believe ApacheDS can be used for both embedded and standalone purporse eventually.

>From *my* point of view, log4j is perfect for what we are doing
actually.

Now, answering Trustin question, using java.util.logging doesn't seems
*to me* a very good idea. It has the same drawback than log4j - cf Marc
& Noel answers - and it does not compare with log4j in term of
fonctionality, or tooling.
 
It looks like java.util.logging is less convinient than Log4J or Commons-Logging.

If I have to make a choice, based on what ApacheDS will be in two years,
it may be :
1) commons-logging/Juli + log4j
2) log4j
3) java.util.logging
 
If commons logging team is fixing the issue Stephane addressed as Noel mentioned, I'd like to go to the choice #1 because I believe commons logging is widely deployed and almost everyone knows how to use it.
 
Actually I don't think the dynamic loading issue is not really critical because we already know about it IMHO.
 
Trustin
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