On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 13:14 -0500, Peter Kupfer OOo wrote: > G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > > On Sat, 2005-07-16 at 16:02 +0000, Jonathon Blake wrote: > > > >>Charles wrote: > >> > >> > >>>documentation project will soon release an HOW TO that will explain > >>>everything there is to know about the OOo documentation work. > >> > >>Only about five years to late. > >> > >>xan > >> > >>jonathon > > > > > > Perhaps. But where is your contribution, any contribution? You have not > > made one to documentation except on ooauthors.
I tried it and the document was promised a proof and review. Nada. I waited considerable time then had it posted directly to documentation. Mind this was back in January but that should not have stopped a review but it did. I came away feeling NIH so ignore and it will go away. Needless to say that is what I did. Later I got commit privs on documentation and subsequently posted a fair bit of material. > > > > Letś get a little history. Daniel found working with the documentation > > project too difficult so he proposed an off-site way, oooauthors, that > > would make production of documentation easier and that this project > > would feed the main documentation project. He also promised that this > > would result in a user guide. Well we actually got a user guide but only > > after the doc project published one. So much for that. Daniel did find it hard. I do not know or understand why. I do know he did not like working within the existing system and worked on a quick start guide at umb that I mirrored for the longest time until I found out that he had moved the docs elsewhere. That mirror went in a big hurry. > > > > THere was also a promise of a printed guide. Again this has not occurred > > via oooauthors; however, the documentation project has this in place and > > further proceeds from the sale of this guide go directly to > > OpenOffice.org. > > > > SO if you want to complain about progress or lack thereof at the doc > > project or any of the NL projects, get involved with OpenOffice.org and > > not a third party project that seems bent on undermining on-going > > efforts. > > > > It is fantastic that the documentation project has done these things, > but is part of the documentation project's objective to bring down > OOoAuthors? > No but I do find the license change annoying. It blocks people using documentation.openoffice.org from getting sources for what is supposedly public. The other thing about the license is that this change has not been passed through the CC. Why, I have no idea since Daniel is a member and could have put it on the agenda so we could all work on the same page. Lastly I dislike the manner in which OOoAuthors recruits as it is often at the expense of the accepted projects and NLCs. > Nothing in what Jonathon wrote warranted this response. (Not that his > post was necessary either mind you, but that seems to be a personal > issue between you too.) It is mean-spirited and divisive. What did you > possible hope to accomplish from this post other than to start a fight. > The fight as you call it is the problem OOoAuthors has caused with the NLCs. > Why can't you just be happy that there are two groups working hard to > produce free documentation? This should be something that pleases you, > now makes you angry and bitter. > Angry, yes. Still haven't calmed down and probably won't for a while. > You have a wealth of knowledge that is beneficial to OOo and you have > done a lot of work and have a position of leadership. I just would have > thought you would be striving to bring the community together rather > than pushing it apart as your last post did. > > Have a good day, > Since OOoAuthors seems bent on divorcing itself from OOo without help from me, I am content to let things go. http://documentation.openoffice.org will continue to publish whatever OOoauthors deems to submit in pdf. So let us review what is going on: 1. OOoAuthors recruits and behaves as if it is an accepted OOo project when in fact it is not and is not even an official incubator project. 2. Licensing problems that cause problems at OOo. Check the NLC lists and you will see. For now I am going to go off and see if I can get rid of the anger and put some sense back into things. Thanks for your concern and let's see if the NLC problem and licensing problem can be resolved in some reasonable fashion. -- PLEASE KEEP MESSAGES ON THE LIST. OpenOffice.org Documentation Co-Lead http://documentation.openoffice.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
