On Mon, 2005-08-29 at 10:22 -0400, Diane Mackay wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Ger, I'm sorry for this message in advance, as I really do
> try to work /with/ folks as much as I can, but I'm going to
> speak up this time, before things get any harder.
> 

I am not particularly pleased with your attitude either. I guess we will
have to agree to disagree.


> I'm not pleased with what in the past has felt like
> interference from you in the FAQ work. I can pull up several
> issues where you have been somewhat rude, you have changed
> subject matter to deviate from the task at hand, and you
> seem to pick directions in the work that do not synchronize
> well with plans that have been discussed openly, openly
> enough so that you should be quite aware of the happenings.
> I can pull up quite a few communications from past issue
> reports and emails to support my claim. I won't do that yet,
> because I hope I don't have to go that far to get you to see
> how your attitude has not been very encouraging to me.
> 

I do not uderstand. I see FAQs that need doing and do them. If you want
control assign the taks to yourself and do the work. Leaving issues such
as 43188 lying around for someone else to do when you really wanted to
do it y ourself makes no sense. THere is work to be done and when no one
steps up to the plate to do it wrt FAQs, I have been adding what is
needed. Since I spend my time in the doc project that is where I add
them. 

> I do not find your behaviour encouraging. You often treat
> others as if they should just know what things that seem
> obvious to you, so I expect that you know things, especially
> things that occur right under you nose on the lists or in
> the issue reports. I make it a point to do all my work out
> in the open. I do not like you emailing me off list, nor
> calling me "in the name of OOo work", while your messages
> yell "PLEASE KEEP MESSAGES ON THE LIST."

WHAT?! You make no sense. I have rarely emailed you off list and in
those cases it was to see if I could help. Even to a tollfree number. As
to my sig, I am supposed to change it just for you? Forget it. IF you
cannot figure out how to do things, please ask rather than getting on
your high horse and trying to cause problems where none exist. As I said
if you want control take and put your name on it. Do not leave tasks
sitting in issues.

> 
> I resent having to go in and "clean up" your work, because
> you do appear to be such a bright person. I resent your
> insults in the issue reports. If you continue to behave in a
> way that degrades me or interferes with my work, I will
> challenge your leadership position. I do not feel encouraged
> by the behaviour. It is not in line with the attitude that
> is specified for an OpenOffice.org project leader. I think
> it is unnecessary.
> 

No more insulting than yours. WIth what work am I interfering? What
attitude other than being resentful of your accusations when all I am
trying to do is make the doc project useful to users. As to formatting,
if you are talking about the collection from OOoAuthors, I know nothing
about it and have not looked. I will  have a look today.

> You don't touch anything around my work until I do. Then
> when you do, you do it in a way that is incomplete,
> non-polished, abrasive, or challenging of the general
> direction, after you criticize me for my html work,

Nonsense. I tried making a script for you to help with formatting the
doc project faqs which was not as complete as I would have liked. Is
this what you are talking about. Again If you want control take it,
complete the tasks in the list and do whatever you need to do to make
whatever it is you are complaining about your way. 

> including things as small as my html composer rewrapping
> code, which I see from almost all others that do work in the
> doc project, or you criticize my intelligence, as if I do
> not know what I am doing. Nonetheless, I've tried hard to
> bring my work to a state that meets your quality standards,

Good gracious this is getting silly. I cannot ask you to wrap your
messages?  Boy!

> so as to work in a way that feels good to you and does not
> rub you the wrong way. I'm tired of of the double standards,
> and the dissension I run into with you, when I try to ramp
> up the FAQ work. I will stand up to it and challenge your
> position, if that is what it takes to make it stop.
> 

Diane,

I have tried to respond to your tirade but I am worried about how you
perceive things. We cannot ask you questions, we cannot add items to the
FAQs without your permission, we cannot make suggestions, we cannot ask
you to do simple things like wrap your messages and ...

What is it you really want? Your biggest problem seems to be that I add
items to the FAQs on the doc project, Especially ones that have issues
such as 43188. Sorry.

FAQs are yours. I will say this that your comments in 43188 were not
called for. I hope you can see that. If not, carry on.


-- 
PLEASE KEEP MESSAGES ON THE LIST.
OpenOffice.org Documentation Co-Lead
http://documentation.openoffice.org/ 


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