16/07/2018 03:58, Lu, Wenzhuo:
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev [mailto:dev-boun...@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Lu, Wenzhuo
> > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 9:08 AM
> > To: Andrew Rybchenko <arybche...@solarflare.com>; dev@dpdk.org
> > Cc: Yigit, Ferruh <ferruh.yi...@intel.com>; Thomas Monjalon
> > <tho...@monjalon.net>
> > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] ethdev: fix device info getting
> > 
> > Hi Andrew,
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andrew Rybchenko [mailto:arybche...@solarflare.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 4:03 PM
> > > To: Lu, Wenzhuo <wenzhuo...@intel.com>; dev@dpdk.org
> > > Cc: Yigit, Ferruh <ferruh.yi...@intel.com>; Thomas Monjalon
> > > <tho...@monjalon.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] ethdev: fix device info getting
> > >
> > > Hi, Wenzhuo,
> > >
> > > I'm sorry, but I have more even harder questions than the previous one.
> > > This questions are rather generic and mainly to ethdev maintainers.
> > >
> > > On 13.07.2018 05:42, Wenzhuo Lu wrote:
> > > > The device information cannot be gotten correctly before the
> > > > configuration is set. Because on some NICs the information has
> > > > dependence on the configuration.
> > >
> > > Thinking about it I have the following question. Is it valid behaviour
> > > of the dev_info if it changes after configuration?
> > > I always thought that the primary goal of the dev_info is to provide
> > > information to app about device capabilities to allow app configure
> > > device and queues correctly. Now we see the case when dev_info changes
> > > on configure. May be it is acceptable, but it is really suspicious. If
> > > we accept it, it should be documented.
> > > May be dev_info should be split into parts: part which is persistent
> > > and part which may depend on device configuration.
> > As I remember, the similar discussion has happened :) I've raised the 
> > similar
> > suggestion like this. But we don’t make it happen.
> > The reason is, you see, this is the rte layer's behavior. So the user 
> > doesn't
> > have to know it. From APP's PoV, it inputs the configuration, it calls this 
> > API
> > "rte_eth_dev_configure". It doesn't know  the configuration is copied before
> > getting the info or not.
> > So, to my opinion, we can still keep the behavior. We only need to split it
> > into parts when we do see the case that cannot make it.
> Maybe I talked too much about the patch. Think about it again. Your comments 
> is about how to use the APIs,
> rte_eth_dev_info_get, rte_eth_dev_configure. To my opinion, 
> rte_eth_dev_info_get is just to get the info. It can be called anywhere, 
> before configuration or after. It's reasonable the info changes with the 
> configuration changing.
> But we do have something missing, like, rte_eth_dev_capability_get which 
> should be stable. APP can use this API to get the necessary info before 
> configuration.
> 
> A question, maybe a little divergent thinking, that APP should have some 
> intelligence to handle the capability automatically. So getting the 
> capability is not so good and effective, looks like we still need the human 
> involvement. Maybe that the reason currently we suppose APP know the 
> capability from the paper copies, examples...

I am not sure to understand all the sentences.
But I agree that we should take a decision about the stability
of these infos.
Either infos cannot change after probing,
or we must document that the app must request infos regularly (when?).


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