> From: Bruce Richardson [mailto:bruce.richard...@intel.com]
> Sent: Monday, 20 February 2023 12.53
> 
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 12:12:50PM +0100, Morten Brørup wrote:
> > > From: Thomas Monjalon [mailto:tho...@monjalon.net]
> > > Sent: Monday, 20 February 2023 11.17
> > >
> > > 20/02/2023 10:43, Morten Brørup:
> > > > > From: Thomas Monjalon [mailto:tho...@monjalon.net]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, 20 February 2023 08.45
> > > > >
> > > > > 16/02/2023 09:36, Ruifeng Wang:
> > > > > > From: Chengwen Feng <fengcheng...@huawei.com>
> > > > > > > Subject: [PATCH] net/hns3: support disable IOVA as PA mode
> > > > >
> > > > > Could we change the title to "support IOVA as VA" ?
> > > >
> > > > The underlying problem is the meson configuration option name for
> > > this feature [1]:
> > > >
> > > > option('enable_iova_as_pa', type: 'boolean', value: true,
> > > description:
> > > >        'Support for IOVA as physical address. Disabling removes
> the
> > > buf_iova field of mbuf.')
> > > >
> > > > [1]:
> > >
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/dpdk/v22.11.1/source/meson_options.txt#L43
> > > >
> > > > Formally, the patch provides the ability to set a boolean
> > > configuration value ("enable_iova_as_pa") to false, and thus the
> patch
> > > title is correct.
> > > >
> > > > Nonetheless, I agree that the title suggested by Thomas is an
> > > improvement.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Going back to the root cause, I think the configuration option
> should
> > > be an enum instead of a boolean, e.g. "iova_mode" with values
> "iova_pa"
> > > and "iova_va".
> > >
> > > We can enable both and have it decided at runtime. So I think the
> > > boolean is OK.
> >
> > I forgot that it could be changed at runtime.
> >
> > I'll share a few thoughts for consideration, but expect no further
> replies. Sorry about the noise. ;-)
> >
> > The documentation [2] says that IOVA as PA is always supported, and
> is the default mode. Support for IOVA as VA is optional.
> >
> > [2]:
> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/articles/technical/me
> mory-in-dpdk-part-2-deep-dive-into-iova.html
> >
> > IOVA as VA can be selected at runtime, as you mention, or at build
> time. But selecting IOVA as VA (at runtime or build time) requires
> support by the underlying environment/hardware.
> >
> > If IOVA as PA is always supported (and is the default), the name of
> this meson configuration option could be improved. Its current name
> says "enable feature X", but if feature X is already supported by
> default, the name seems meaningless. If we want to keep it boolean, it
> could be inverted, e.g.: "iova_as_va_only" with default value "false".
> >
> > However, if modifying the meson configuration option (name and/or
> type) doesn't reduce the risk of confusion with the various IOVA modes,
> it's not worth the effort.
> >
> I agree that this option is confusing, and thinking about it, I agree
> that
> a pair of named option is probably better than just a true/false
> booleans.
> My current thinking is that a combo option is best - maybe named:
> "supported_iova_modes", with possible values ["va_and_pa", "va_only"]
> may
> be clearest. However, that would be a change in how things are
> currently
> configured.
> 
> A alternative if we want to keep compatibility, is to expand or clarify
> the
> help text for the existing "enable_iova_as_pa" option. The current help
> text reads:
> 
> "Support for IOVA as physical address. Disabling removes the buf_iova
> field
> of mbuf."
> 
> We could expand that to e.g.:
> 
> "Support the use of physical addresses for IO addresses, such as used
> by
> VFIO in no-iommu mode, or UIO-based drivers. When disabled, DPDK can
> only
> run with IOMMU support for address mappings, but will have more space
> available in the mbuf structure".
> 
> Such an explanation is quite a bit longer, but I see meson does a
> decent
> job of wrapping the output of "meson configure" in latest versions.
> 
> /Bruce

Updating the description of the meson configuration option would be an 
improvement.

But I'm thinking more about the ripple effect into the resulting #define's, and 
the code using those. It would be nice getting this cleaned up. Which is why I 
compare the IOVA mode to CPU Endianness, as an example of a Boolean value 
represented by multiple #define's for code readability purposes.

But I suppose such a change has too widely reaching side effects, regarding 
backwards compatibility.


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