+1, I think it has enough feature parity with the native JSON queries, and
it's stable enough to be moved out of experimental.

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 6:23 PM Fangjin Yang <fang...@imply.io> wrote:

> Strong +1
>
> I think there's been enough production usage of Druid SQL, it matches what
> native JSON-over-http can do, and it should no longer be labeled as
> experimental.
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 6:06 PM Gian Merlino <g...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > Reviving this thread. Now that
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-druid/pull/6742 and
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-druid/pull/6862 have been released
> in
> > 0.14, I'm re-proposing graduating Druid SQL from experimental status in
> the
> > next release, 0.15. I don't think we need a formal vote on this, but if
> > there seems to be general consensus, I'll do a PR before the next
> 3-monthly
> > 0.15 code freeze (which is in about 2 weeks).
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:20 AM Gian Merlino <g...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > It sounds like the general feeling is +1 on Kafka and maybe wait
> another
> > > release for SQL. I will do a PR to mark Kafka ingest as
> non-experimental,
> > > then, and on SQL we'll see whether #6742 and #6862 look solid in 0.14.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 8:39 AM Gian Merlino <g...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Mat,
> > >>
> > >> Ah, right. IMO https://github.com/apache/incubator-druid/pull/6742
> is a
> > >> decent workaround towards making #6176 less of a problem. It would
> > prevent
> > >> incorrect results from happening (the broker will not start up its
> http
> > >> server & announce itself, and so it won't get picked up by clients, if
> > it
> > >> never got the initialization event). If paired with monitoring that
> > >> restarts unhealthy brokers, the issue should be fully worked-around in
> > >> practice.
> > >>
> > >> Even though there's an (imo) viable workaround, it would still be good
> > to
> > >> fix the root cause of #6176. I just raised
> > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-druid/pull/6862 to update Curator
> > >> and see if that helps -- there is a bug fixed in the latest release
> that
> > >> looks like it could cause the behavior we're seeing (
> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CURATOR-476).
> > >>
> > >> My feeling is that it's still reasonable to remove the experimental
> > label
> > >> from Druid SQL in 0.14, especially since #6742 will make SQL and
> native
> > >> queries behave at parity (initialization getting missed will delay
> > broker
> > >> startup for _both_ cases). So in that sense they are at least on the
> > same
> > >> footing. And hopefully #6862 will fix them both, together.
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:56 AM Pierre-Emile Ferron <
> > pe.fer...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> A remaining issue with SQL is
> > >>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-druid/issues/6176
> > >>>
> > >>> We've seen it happen several times in production on 0.12, where
> > >>> thankfully
> > >>> SQL doesn't power anything critical. The current workarounds are:
> > >>> 1. Restart the broker. Obviously not a good solution.
> > >>> 2. Migrate to HTTP segment discovery. I'm fine with that, and we are
> > >>> actually planning to do it soon in our clusters, but I'm still
> > concerned
> > >>> about other Druid users—the default setting is still ZK, which means
> > that
> > >>> SQL would still have this issue by default.
> > >>>
> > >>> Before marking SQL as non-experimental, I'd suggest either fixing the
> > >>> root
> > >>> cause, or making HTTP segment discovery the default and then
> explicitly
> > >>> deprecating ZK segment discovery.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 2:18 PM Gian Merlino <g...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > I'd like to propose graduating a couple of features out of
> > >>> 'experimental'
> > >>> > status in 0.14. Both are popular features (judging by mailing list
> &
> > >>> github
> > >>> > issue/PR activity). Both have been around for a while and have
> > >>> attained a
> > >>> > good level of quality and stability of API & behavior. I believe
> > >>> removing
> > >>> > the 'experimental' banner from these features would more accurately
> > >>> reflect
> > >>> > reality, and be a good signal to the user community.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 1) Kafka indexing service. First introduced in Druid 0.9.1, it went
> > >>> through
> > >>> > a major protocol change in Druid 0.12.0 that added incremental
> > >>> publishing,
> > >>> > & 'mixing' of data from different partitions. Subjectively, quality
> > >>> appears
> > >>> > to be getting more solid, based on frequency of bug reports and
> also
> > >>> based
> > >>> > on our own experiences running this in production. Finally- I
> believe
> > >>> it is
> > >>> > already much more robust than Tranquility, the only 'stable'
> > >>> alternative.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 2) Druid SQL. First introduced in Druid 0.10.0. It isn't feature
> > >>> complete
> > >>> > yet (multi-value dimensions, datasketches, etc, remain unsupported)
> > >>> but the
> > >>> > API and behavior have been generally stable. No major issues around
> > >>> memory
> > >>> > / performance / etc regressions relative to native Druid queries
> are
> > >>> > outstanding. IMO, it is well on its way to becoming a first class
> way
> > >>> to
> > >>> > query Druid, and it is a good time to remove the 'experimental'
> > banner.
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
>

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