Gyan,

We have this information in a doc and will formalize it for sharing and
review.

Thanks,
Razin

On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 12:14 PM Gian Merlino <g...@apache.org> wrote:

> Typically that would be done after donation and prior to the first Apache
> release.
>
> On 2025/07/29 12:47:16 Eyal Yurman wrote:
> > Additional question: would compliance code changes (license headers and
> > lint, Apache compliant binary build) something that is a prerequisite or
> is
> > done after donation?
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Eyal Yurman
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 11:41 AM Gian Merlino <g...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > That's a good question. I am not sure, but we can figure it out.
> > >
> > > The main question is whether the IP Clearance requirements have been
> met.
> > > I think they *may* have been met with the ICLAs but let's be sure.
> > >
> > > I think the next step would be to write a summary about the history of
> the
> > > operator, covering questions like: what was the first release? who
> owns the
> > > copyright on that original code? who have the major contributors been
> since
> > > then? what is the status of the original repo and the current community
> > > fork?) Then, summarize what rights we have acquired through ICLA,
> CCLA, or
> > > SGA. Then, we can send that to the incubator mailing list and ask if
> it's
> > > sufficient.
> > >
> > > From looking through the archives, I *think* the summary goes something
> > > like: the first release was in 2019 by Himanshu Gupta, who is a Druid
> > > committer and was at the time working at Splunk. It was released under
> the
> > > Apache license into
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/druid-io/druid-operator/__;!!DCbAVzZNrAf4!E_eHNrouR7henefOBycgASk3PowVVy9PpXxVxlGD6r-4Q62aXcl0-ziVNXznCUd89t9xVnzN79zkeA$
> , the
> > > GitHub organization that housed Druid prior to donation to ASF. It was
> > > moved to
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/datainfrahq/druid-operator__;!!DCbAVzZNrAf4!E_eHNrouR7henefOBycgASk3PowVVy9PpXxVxlGD6r-4Q62aXcl0-ziVNXznCUd89t9xVnwLGbIx2w$
> in 2022 pursuant
> > > to a discussion in
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/druid-io/druid-operator/issues/329__;!!DCbAVzZNrAf4!E_eHNrouR7henefOBycgASk3PowVVy9PpXxVxlGD6r-4Q62aXcl0-ziVNXznCUd89t9xVnyvB8OOfA$
> .
> > > Since then, the community around the operator has decided it would
> like to
> > > pursue donation to ASF. The major contributors (Himanshu and Adheip)
> have
> > > ICLAs on file. The project has been Apache licensed throughout its
> entire
> > > lifetime.
> > >
> > > Is this all correct? If so, I would suggest replying with that summary
> to
> > > the thread at
> > >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apache.org/thread/shl7lppxzf53xntw0mv1srtorolrj1qg__;!!DCbAVzZNrAf4!E_eHNrouR7henefOBycgASk3PowVVy9PpXxVxlGD6r-4Q62aXcl0-ziVNXznCUd89t9xVnx8GRddDg$
> , and
> > > asking if this is sufficient for us to accept the donation. I hope it
> is!
> > >
> > > Gian
> > >
> > > On 2025/06/24 21:16:32 Razin Bouzar wrote:
> > > > Adheip Singh has submitted an ICLA to the Druid PMC. Thank you,
> Adheip.
> > > >
> > > > A question for the PMC: will Adheip's ICLA suffice, given that the
> > > operator
> > > > is covered by an Apache 2.0 license?
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 12:02 AM Eyal Yurman <eyal.yur...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Karan, I hope I can answer,
> > > > >
> > > > > We are working towards having the legal papers signed, as is
> expected
> > > that
> > > > > Apache Druid PMC and the ASF will require for the code donation.
> > > > >
> > > > > However, I believe this won’t need coordination with the Apache
> Druid
> > > > > release. The intent is to suggest a separate repository and release
> > > cycle.
> > > > > This is similar to how Apache Flink manages the Operator sub level
> > > project.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Eyal Yurman
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 8:42 PM Karan Kumar <
> karankumar1...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hey Razin
> > > > > > Thanks for working on this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are in process of starting the next release train for the
> druid 34
> > > > > where
> > > > > > the code freeze will happen in early July. We can delay the code
> > > freeze a
> > > > > > bit if we can get this in. Do you think its possible to finish
> the
> > > code
> > > > > > donation by then ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, May 9, 2025 at 5:57 PM Razin Bouzar <
> rbou...@salesforce.com
> > > > > > .invalid>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey Karan,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Eyal and I met last week and began drafting a document to
> track all
> > > > > > project
> > > > > > > committers and relevant information. We have a few questions
> for
> > > the
> > > > > > > incubator regarding licensing, maintainers, and CLAs, which I
> plan
> > > to
> > > > > > > address with them later today.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, May 9, 2025 at 12:58 AM Karan Kumar <
> > > karankumar1...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just following up here,
> > > > > > > > @Razin, @Eyal did you get a chance to work on it ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 8:17 AM Karan Kumar <
> > > > > karankumar1...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks @Razin, @Clint .
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I think you could still largely drive this on behalf of
> the
> > > PMC
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > all of the information for the form filled out and just get
> > > someone
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > the PMC to file the paperwork or whatever when ready.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Can help here!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 7:10 PM Razin Bouzar
> > > > > > > > > <rbou...@salesforce.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> @Clint Wylie, thank you for the response. Yes, I am
> willing to
> > > > > help
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > >> clearance paperwork. +1 to adding operator maintainers as
> > > > > > committers.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> @Eyal Yurman, we can collaborate if you're up for it.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> To echo Eyal's call for help, @Interested Maintainers,
> please
> > > > > reach
> > > > > > > out.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 6:46 PM Eyal Yurman <
> > > > > eyal.yur...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > Hello,
> > > > > > > > >> > Based on the comments to this proposal [1] in the
> > > druid-operator
> > > > > > > > >> > repository, there is willingness by the maintainers to
> have
> > > the
> > > > > > > > project
> > > > > > > > >> > donated to Apache Druid.
> > > > > > > > >> > I would be happy to spend the time and effort driving
> this
> > > > > > forward,
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > >> we
> > > > > > > > >> > are using the druid-operator internally and have
> interest
> > > in its
> > > > > > > > >> longevity.
> > > > > > > > >> > However, I'm not a maintainer/committer of either
> > > druid-operator
> > > > > > nor
> > > > > > > > >> Apache
> > > > > > > > >> > Druid.
> > > > > > > > >> > Thus, if there is any maintainer that would like to
> > > participate,
> > > > > > > > please
> > > > > > > > >> > come forward. Otherwise I can work and this process.
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > [1]
> > >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/datainfrahq/druid-operator/issues/212__;!!DCbAVzZNrAf4!E_eHNrouR7henefOBycgASk3PowVVy9PpXxVxlGD6r-4Q62aXcl0-ziVNXznCUd89t9xVnzApZKt2Q$
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 3:36 PM Clint Wylie <
> > > cwy...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > I think as long as someone is willing to do the hard
> part
> > > of
> > > > > > > filling
> > > > > > > > >> > > out the form for the Apache IP clearance process to
> > > completion
> > > > > > > > (which
> > > > > > > > >> > > it sounds like you are), then it seems useful to be
> part
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> > > project. Reading through
> > > > > > >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/__;!!DCbAVzZNrAf4!E_eHNrouR7henefOBycgASk3PowVVy9PpXxVxlGD6r-4Q62aXcl0-ziVNXznCUd89t9xVnyF2HJF8g$
> > > > > > > > >> it
> > > > > > > > >> > > sounds like it does need to be technically submitted
> by
> > > the
> > > > > PMC,
> > > > > > > > but I
> > > > > > > > >> > > think you could still largely drive this on behalf of
> the
> > > PMC
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > >> > > all of the information for the form filled out and
> just
> > > get
> > > > > > > someone
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > >> > > the PMC to file the paperwork or whatever when ready.
> I'm
> > > > > > calling
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > >> > > out as important because previously there was a
> similar
> > > effort
> > > > > > > for a
> > > > > > > > >> > > Helm chart but it stalled because the IP clearance
> never
> > > was
> > > > > > > > finished
> > > > > > > > >> > > (
> > > > > >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apache.org/thread/ygyzt23m06vc775nq5dsm349rf0j47dg__;!!DCbAVzZNrAf4!E_eHNrouR7henefOBycgASk3PowVVy9PpXxVxlGD6r-4Q62aXcl0-ziVNXznCUd89t9xVnwqvmWdSw$
> > > > > > > ),
> > > > > > > > >> > > and since IP clearance form is somewhat tedious to
> do, no
> > > one
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> > > PMC picked up the process to finish.
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > I think we would also want to consider adding the
> > > maintainers
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> > > druid operator as committers (if not already), since
> I'm
> > > not
> > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > >> > > much expertise the existing Druid committers have on
> this
> > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 2:07 PM Razin Bouzar
> > > > > > > > >> > > <rbou...@salesforce.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > Following up here to see if there is any interest
> from
> > > the
> > > > > > > > community
> > > > > > > > >> > for
> > > > > > > > >> > > > the proposal to re-integrate the operator into the
> > > Apache
> > > > > > Druid
> > > > > > > > >> > project.
> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 1:39 PM Razin Bouzar <
> > > > > > > > >> rbou...@salesforce.com>
> > > > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Hey Austin,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Hoping to have the operator donated to the Druid
> > > project,
> > > > > > > though
> > > > > > > > >> my
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > understanding is that IP clearance is still
> required
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > <
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/druid-io/druid-operator/issues/329*issuecomment-1429510965__;Iw!!DCbAVzZNrAf4!E_eHNrouR7henefOBycgASk3PowVVy9PpXxVxlGD6r-4Q62aXcl0-ziVNXznCUd89t9xVnzdfvxjlw$
> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > .
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Razin
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 12:55 PM Austin Bennett <
> > > > > > > > >> aus...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> For clarification: You are hoping that the druid
> > > operator
> > > > > > > gets
> > > > > > > > >> > > donated to
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> the Druid project?  Or, that the operator becomes
> > > its own
> > > > > > > > >> standalone
> > > > > > > > >> > > ASF
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> project -- thereby needing to go through the
> > > incubator?
> > > > > > This
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > >> not
> > > > > > > > >> > > 100%
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> clear from your message and I only skimmed the
> links.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 9:42 AM Razin Bouzar <
> > > > > > > > >> > rbou...@salesforce.com
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> .invalid>
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > Hello Druids,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > There is growing interest
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > <
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/datainfrahq/druid-operator/issues/212__;!!DCbAVzZNrAf4!EZw71-pQFAfR3z0Is6W8POhdEEW_Ufzyqa65tNwwn0CQLZMYCD1dHVqxQYkgRdzKf5Mo2wSOXoKxB80K$
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > surrounding the
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > Druid Operator's project governance. We see
> many
> > > > > benefits
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >> > > community
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > owned operator and would like to take this
> > > opportunity
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >> > > contribute the
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > project to the Apache Software Foundation
> (ASF).
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > Here's what's needed (full details
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > <
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html?__;!!DCbAVzZNrAf4!EZw71-pQFAfR3z0Is6W8POhdEEW_Ufzyqa65tNwwn0CQLZMYCD1dHVqxQYkgRdzKf5Mo2wSOXqjK9ZHv$
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >):
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >    1. We must identify current maintainers of
> the
> > > Druid
> > > > > > > > >> Operator
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >    <
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/datainfrahq/druid-operator__;!!DCbAVzZNrAf4!EZw71-pQFAfR3z0Is6W8POhdEEW_Ufzyqa65tNwwn0CQLZMYCD1dHVqxQYkgRdzKf5Mo2wSOXoxvhY4A$
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >    2. Since Apache prefers donations, we need
> > > consent
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> > > current
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >    maintainers to contribute the project to the
> > > ASF. A
> > > > > > note
> > > > > > > > >> from
> > > > > > > > >> > the
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > primary
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >    maintainers would suffice.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >    3. Each maintainer or major contributor,
> will
> > > need
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >> provide
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > either a Software
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >    Grant <
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant-template.pdf__;!!DCbAVzZNrAf4!EZw71-pQFAfR3z0Is6W8POhdEEW_Ufzyqa65tNwwn0CQLZMYCD1dHVqxQYkgRdzKf5Mo2wSOXtClOGNj$
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >    Individual CLA, or Corporate CLA.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >    4. Apache Druid committers should be added
> as
> > > > > > committers
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > > >> > > Druid
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >    Operator project to ensure ongoing
> maintenance.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > If you are a current maintainer of the Druid
> > > Operator,
> > > > > > > please
> > > > > > > > >> > > identify
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > yourself so we can proceed with consent and
> > > software
> > > > > > > grants.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Additionally,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > any Apache Druid committers interested in
> > > volunteering
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > >> project
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > maintenance would be appreciated.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > I have already begun a draft of the IP
> clearance
> > > > > > template.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > Thank you for your consideration.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > Razin Bouzar
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > --
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >
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> > > > > > > > >>
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> > > > > > > > >> > > > <
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > >> > Best regards,
> > > > > > > > >> > Eyal Yurman
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >>
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