It is a good suggestion any way, we should give it a try at least.

-Ian.

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 10:21 AM yuhang xiu <[email protected]> wrote:

> hi, @jun alpha
>
> I agree.
> If netty can do more precise heartbeat control, we can integrate its design
> in our heartbeat. Would you like to try it?
>
> Jun Alpha <[email protected]> 于2019年1月9日周三 下午9:21写道:
>
> > Hi,I left a comment in this issue[1],I think it's worth to learn from
> > netty's heartbeat mechanism.
> >
> > [1]  https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/issues/3151
> >
> > Ian Luo <[email protected]> 于2019年1月7日周一 下午10:47写道:
> >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 2:50 PM yuhang xiu <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi, I left some comments in this issue[1]
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to beiwei for reminding. I forgot that we have some non-netty
> > > > servers. In this case, I personally prefer all heartbeats to use the
> > same
> > > > set of mechanisms to guarantee. But we can learn from netty's
> heartbeat
> > > > mechanism to ensure more accurate heartbeat control.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/issues/3151
> > > >
> > > > Ian Luo <[email protected]> 于2019年1月7日周一 下午1:09写道:
> > > >
> > > > > It is an interesting topic. It is worthy to give it a try when
> Dubbo
> > > uses
> > > > > Netty, but pls. keep in mind that Dubbo has the ability to use
> other
> > > > > servers. I am not sure whether this suggestion will introduce
> > > unnecessary
> > > > > complexity.
> > > > >
> > > > > JingFeng, would you mind to file an issue and give it a try if you
> > have
> > > > > time?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > -Ian.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 11:03 AM 徐靖峰 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 现状:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dubbo
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 在应用层面发送心跳包保证连接的可用性,使用了定时器的设计,在客户端和服务端分别设置一个定时器,发送心跳,当发现连接断开时,客户端负责重连,服务端负责
> > > > > > close。使用定时器并不是一个好的设计,在忙通信时,心跳是不必要的。建议使用 Netty 的
> > > > > > IdleStateHandler,仅仅在检测到空闲连接时发送心跳。
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 修改建议:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 使用 IdleStateHandler 代替 Timer 发送心跳
> > > > > > 关闭 ChannelOption.SO_KEEPALIVE,网络层面的 TCP 断连需要在机器级别设置,默认是 2
> > > > > > 小时,几乎没有必要存在,却发出了无必要的 TCP 探测包,仅仅依赖于应用层的心跳来给连接保活即可。
> > > > > > For now:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dubbo sends a heartbeat packet at the application level to ensure
> > the
> > > > > > availability of the connection. A timer is set on the client and
> > the
> > > > > server
> > > > > > to send a heartbeat. When the connection is found to be
> > disconnected,
> > > > the
> > > > > > client is responsible for reconnection and the server is
> > responsible
> > > > for
> > > > > > close. Using a timer is not a good design, and the heartbeat is
> > > > > unnecessary
> > > > > > when communicating busy. It is recommended to use Netty's
> > > > > IdleStateHandler
> > > > > > to send a heartbeat only when an idle connection is detected.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Proposed changes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Send heartbeats using IdleStateHandler instead of Timer
> > > > > > Close ChannelOption.SO_KEEPALIVE, TCP disconnection at the
> network
> > > > level
> > > > > > needs to be set at the machine level. The default is 2 hours.
> There
> > > is
> > > > > > almost no need to exist, but an unnecessary TCP probe packet is
> > > issued.
> > > > > It
> > > > > > only depends on the heartbeat of the application layer to keep
> the
> > > > > > connection alive. Just fine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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