The big issue here is fixing the speed with which the current site loads for Chinese users. Infra is against the vm in China based on the jira ticiet I opened but is investigating other ideas like cdn models. Please email Greg Stein directly for more information per the ticket.
As for Tongij vs GA, I don't see the difference. I would stay with BT and create a policy about what you are tracking and why as well as get everyone access to it. We all know the gfw will block a lot of Google stuff. I really like that you are discuss this and on list to try and figure stuff out. Regards, KAM On Thu, Apr 18, 2019, 13:34 Dave Fisher <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi - > > There are several issues here. Publishing analytics on the website is a > good idea. Having an account that is accessible to the PPMC is correct. > > Moving the domain for the Chinese language site from echarts.baidu.com to > www.echartsjs.com doesn’t solve the requirement to be on an apache.org > website. Who controls the echartsjs.com domain? > > Apache projects must have their websites on the apache.org domain. There > are only a few exceptions that have been allowed for large well known > projects that came to apache with a large user base. Examples are > OpenOffice.org and groovy-lang.org. ECharts does not qualify. Managing > separate domains is expensive for Apache Infrastructure and with 250 > projects and podlings we can’t make many exceptions. > > Regards, > Dave > > > > On Apr 18, 2019, at 8:56 AM, Clement Ho <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Have we considered publishing the analytics data publicly? Could be real > > time or monthly or quarterly. It could also be helpful for the community > to > > learn about the projects traction. > > > > As for echartsjs.com as the chinese redirect website, I think it is > worth > > considering whether that may skew the perception that this is primarily a > > chinese open source project rather than a global open source project. > Just > > some thoughts that came to mind. > > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 10:50 AM SHUANG SU <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> The analytics and statistics of the website are only be used by ECharts > >> maintainers to check: > >> "whether our work makes sense." or even "whether the whole project makes > >> sense." > >> > >> The statistics from the website have been playing a core role in the > >> development > >> of the ECharts project in the past years. > >> There are few approaches to know whether many users are still using > >> ECharts, choosing ECharts, > >> and how to use it, and which charts/components/features are used > frequently > >> and which are rarely used. > >> So the website analysis guides the maintainers to make better decisions > >> about out further work, > >> do not based on the imagination but based on some information from the > real > >> world. > >> Without them, we, the maintainers, will become more and more blind, > which > >> is very harmful to the ECharts project. > >> > >> So > >> + 1 (binding) > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> Su Shuang (100pah) > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 23:06, Ovilia <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> ECharts Website currently uses Baidu Tongji [1] as the analytics tool. > >>> To make the information accessible to all PMC members, we are going to > >> add > >>> Google Analytics. > >>> > >>> Please vote for this suggestion: > >>> For the time being, we suggest > >>> 1.0 Making http://echarts.apache.org be the default Website > >>> 1.1 Linking it from GitHub project (done) > >>> 1.2 Linking it from the "Home" button in the navbar (done) > >>> 1.3 Linking it from the "En" button in Chinese Website (done) > >>> 1.4 Removing Baidu Tongji > >>> 1.5 Creating a Google account that can be accessed by all PMC > members > >>> and adding Google Analytics in Website > >>> 2 Making https://www.echartsjs.com be the default Chinese Website > >>> 2.1 Linking it from "中文" (Chinese) button in > >> http://echarts.apache.org > >>> 2.2 Redirecting https://echarts.baidu.com to it > >>> 2.3 Adding Google Analytics in Website > >>> 2.4 Creating a Baidu account that can be accessed by all PMC > members. > >>> (Although the product is Chinese-only, you can get access to the data > if > >>> you wish. And translation tools may offer some help.) > >>> > >>> When we have the server provided by Huawei, we wish to make the Chinese > >>> Website under http://echarts.apache.org, probably something like > >>> http://zh.echarts.apache.org. > >>> By that time, we will be able to come to a conclusion about whether > >> Google > >>> Analytics lost some information from China (because the access to some > >>> Google products is limited in China), and decide whether to stick only > to > >>> Google Analytics or both. > >>> > >>> [1] http://tongji.baidu.com > >>> > >>> Wenli Zhang > >>> > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >
