Hi Ovilia, If the new domain doesn't reference apache or echarts name, that would be completely fine with a disclaimer as you suggest. They could even use a Powered By Logo https://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/
I would ask branding for guidance on the domain name but something like gallery.baidu.com as a subdomain would be fine. no need for a new domain name. On 9/17/2020 11:07 PM, Ovilia wrote: > Yes, I agree with that it doesn't seem proper to let a company owned > product > use an Apache domain. > > As I said, we have technical difficulty donating the server. How can > we make > PPMC owns it if the server cannot be accessed outside of Baidu? > > I really don't wish to make things complicated here. The gallery is a > platform > hosting user uploaded works of ECharts and it's not part of the > ECharts software > but a third-party tool. > > So how about Baidu picking another domain name > (and ask IPMC for suggestion before purchasing) for the product and make > a clear notification that the gallery is not an official product of ASF? > ECharts official Website will not link to it if IPMC think it's not > proper. > > IMO it shouldn't have any problem if it doesn't claim to be an > official ECharts > product (correct me if I'm wrong) but just powered by ECharts. > By using a domain name that does not contain ECharts in it, we hope > not to be > taken by mistake as an official product. > > Hope this proposal could work with you. > > Thanks > * > * > *Ovilia* > > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:49 AM Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgr...@apache.org > <mailto:kmcgr...@apache.org>> wrote: > > > On 9/14/2020 2:08 AM, Ovilia wrote: > > Another thing I'd like to confirm here is that, would it be OK > for the ASF > > that we use > > the domain name gallery.echarts.apache.org > <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org> for the gallery while keeping > > the code > > license and the ownership of the user data to be of Baidu? > > Ovilia, yes, I see that as a problem to use an apache.org > <http://apache.org> sub-domain for > any third party. > > > > > Thanks > > > > *Ovilia* > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 12:13 AM Zhongxiang Wang > <wan...@apache.org <mailto:wan...@apache.org>> wrote: > > > >> I appreciate using a subdomain of echarts.apache.org > <http://echarts.apache.org>. > >> > >> It's simple enough to create a CNAME DNS record ` > >> gallery.echarts.apache.org <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org>` > pointing to the current server of the domain ` > >> gallery.echartsjs.com <http://gallery.echartsjs.com>` and we > have no need to do something extra. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Zhongxiang. > >> > >> On 2020/09/11 08:06:38, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com > <mailto:oviliazh...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>> Thanks Dave! > >>> > >>> In this case, I would personally prefer using > gallery.echarts.apache.org <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org> > >>> instead of > >>> gallery.echartsjs.com <http://gallery.echartsjs.com>. > >>> > >>> Hope to hear from other PPMC members' opinions. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> *Ovilia* > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 2:56 AM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org > <mailto:w...@apache.org>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi - > >>>> > >>>> (With my mentor hat.) > >>>> > >>>> Apologies for the late reply. I am fine for this to happen. > It is not > >>>> unprecedented. > >>>> > >>>> For example, the Apache OpenOffice PMC was able to continue using > >>>> openoffice.org <http://openoffice.org> since it already had a > huge user base. While much of > >> the > >>>> domain is hosted on ASF infrastructure including PMC > maintained VMs > >> hosted > >>>> on ASF Infra, a few subdomains like templates.openoffice.org > <http://templates.openoffice.org> is > >> actually > >>>> hosted via CNAME on sourceforge.net <http://sourceforge.net>. > >>>> > >>>> What Infra and Greg would like to see is the PPMC members > discussing > >>>> whether they have trouble with Baidu hosting a resource a > particular > >>>> subdomain. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Dave > >>>> > >>>>> On Sep 7, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com > <mailto:oviliazh...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Do our mentors and Justin have anything to comment on this plan? > >>>>> Would it be all right if Baidu owns the user data and server > while > >> using > >>>>> Apache domain name? > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks > >>>>> > >>>>> Ovilia > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 11:20 AM Yi Shen > <shenyi....@gmail.com <mailto:shenyi....@gmail.com> > >> <mailto: > >>>> shenyi....@gmail.com <mailto:shenyi....@gmail.com>>> wrote: > >>>>> Hi Greg, > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks for the very detailed explanation. > >>>>> > >>>>> What we concerned about is that we need to donate the server > as we > >> did on > >>>>> the website CDN in China. > >>>>> It will be good if we only need to create a CNAME for > >>>>> gallery.echarts.apache.org > <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org> > <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org/>. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 5:57 AM Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com > <mailto:gst...@gmail.com> <mailto: > >>>> gst...@gmail.com <mailto:gst...@gmail.com>>> wrote: > >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 4:16 AM Ovilia > <oviliazh...@gmail.com <mailto:oviliazh...@gmail.com> > >> <mailto: > >>>> oviliazh...@gmail.com <mailto:oviliazh...@gmail.com>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>> I don't think we could use the domain name > >>>> gallery.echarts.apache.org > <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org> > <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org/> > >>>>>> but > >>>>>>> keep > >>>>>>> the server in Baidu company inside (correct me if I'm wrong), > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> That should not be a problem! ... let's say the server is > located > >> at " > >>>>>> something-a38cf9.baidu.com > <http://something-a38cf9.baidu.com> > <http://something-a38cf9.baidu.com/>" > >> ... > >>>> we can simply create a CNAME DNS record > >>>>>> for > >>>>>> gallery.echarts.apache.org > <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org> > <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org/> to > >>>> point to that server. This is actually quite > >>>>>> normal for various apache.org <http://apache.org> > <http://apache.org/> hostnames. We > >>>> point to servers located "off > >>>>>> premises" all the time. Then, echarts can create links to > direct > >>>> people to > >>>>>> gallery.echarts.apache.org > <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org> > <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org/>. > >>>> Solved! > >>>>>> Setting up such a CNAME is very simple for INFRA, so don't > worry > >> about > >>>> the > >>>>>> work. We can have it set up as soon as the community reaches > >> consensus > >>>> on > >>>>>> that approach (eg. discussion/vote where Infra can see the > >> community > >>>>>> agrees). Discuss, the file an INFRA Jira ticket. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>> -g > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Yi Shen > >>>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC > >>>> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org > <mailto:dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@echarts.apache.org > <mailto:dev-h...@echarts.apache.org> > >> > >> > -- > Kevin A. McGrail > kmcgr...@apache.org > > Member, Apache Software Foundation > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org > <mailto:dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@echarts.apache.org > <mailto:dev-h...@echarts.apache.org> > -- Kevin A. 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