Hi,

Leo Simons wrote:
Peter Donald wrote:

It basically comes down to a very simple question. What does gump add for us? and what does it cost to add this?


If only that were a simple question!

It is ;) (Don't forget I was one of those gump fanatics).

 * continous integration where excalibur is built against the latest
   version from CVS HEAD of all our dependencies and our dependees are
   built against us;
 * such a system already in place and running with an active ASF project
   supporting it, also with beefy hardware to support it, etc etc;
 * of course lots of bells and whistles and features like email reports
   on build failures, jar and javadoc publishing, etc;
 * positive mindshare with other ASF projects who also particpate in
   gump and depend on it for continuous integration (ie the warm fuzzy
   fluffy community stuff).

What does it cost?

 * need to know what gump is and how it works;
 * need to maintain gump descriptors;
 * need to maintain ant build for probably 2 or 3 months, though that
   can be 95% autogenerated using a maven plugin.

And there is the rub. As you have pointed out - no one maintains them but you and I certainly don't plan to put in the effort. Unless there is other active develoeprs who are willing to step up and do the work then we may aswell nuke support now.


I would suggest that it would be better if people put in the effort of getting maven support into gump rather than wasting time trying to maintain a separate build system at Excalibur.

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Cheers,

Peter Donald
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