----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leo Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Any container will do reflection, which is some kind of "magic" as well.
> IMHO no container can do without proxying/wrapper generation, etc.
> Container development is all about dealing with "magic", and making sure
> most developers don't have to.

I disagree. Eventually the developer needs to debug code. Debugging with
proxies is really pain in the ass. If the container is too magical it can
turns developer's life in a living hell and proxing is just one of its
faces.

But we can have different opinions as well :-)


Cheers,
hammett


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