We also have a very simple provisioning feature somehow inside Karaf
that can use maven or any url to dowload things if needed.
However, downloading artifacts in production is most often not a very
welcomed idea, so we tend to populate the internal maven 2 repository
and start bundles from there.


On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 14:03, Toni Menzel <[email protected]> wrote:
> How about supporting also generic bootstrappers like Pax Runner that support
> all major frameworks and its versions ?
> Then also you don't have to bundle the framework into the distribution but
> paxrunner which is capable of downloading the correct artifacts from
> different resources.
>
> +1 for a Karaf kind of project !
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Karl Pauls <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 13:29, Adrian Trenaman <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> +1 for the name, and +1 for bringing together the felix and SMX kernels
>> >> communities.
>> >>
>> >> One question though: will Karaf be intimately tied to the Felix OSGi
>> >> implementation? I think that Karaf would be stronger if we can show that
>> it
>> >> works over any OSGi compliant core. Thoughts, anyone?
>> >
>> > I agree with this statement.  Some work is needed to be able to
>> > achieve that, as it's a bit tied to felix right now, but I don't see
>> > any technical issues.
>> > Most of Felix sub projects are independant of the felix runtime, and
>> > even if I don't necesseraly really see Karaf shipping equinox by
>> > default, I do envision an easy way to switch.  Or maybe provide two
>> > distributions by default, why not ?
>>
>> If we use the new embedding api then it is just a matter of replacing
>> the felix.jar with the equinox.jar on the classpath. Some slides on
>> this topic:
>>
>>
>> https://www.gpublication.com/eclipse/#requestedContent=contentID://EclipseConferences/EC2009/534
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Karl
>>
>> >> /Ade
>> >>
>> >> On 31 Mar 2009, at 12:42, James Strachan wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> 2009/3/30 Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]>:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 19:49, Jamie G. <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I agree, this sounds like a win-win for all involved (as per James /
>> >>>>> Guillaume's post).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> As a name submission I'd like Carafe (pronounced "karaf"). A carafe
>> is
>> >>>>> a small container used for serving wine and other drinks
>> >>>>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carafe). In similarity to the name the
>> >>>>> Kernel allows applications to be more easily handled, and improves
>> >>>>> their characteristics (much like a bottle of wine left to breath in a
>> >>>>> decanter) :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What about Karaf to lower the google hit counts and still preserve the
>> >>>> nice semantic ...
>> >>>>  ... and eventually fill the "K" hole of the Apache TLP names list (in
>> >>>> case it ever becomes a TLP later).
>> >>>
>> >>> And K == Kernel etc :)
>> >>>
>> >>> +1 am liking it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Easy to remember, spell and google search. Unless anyone can think of
>> >>> a better idea. (My ideas were all terrible :)
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> James
>> >>> -------
>> >>> http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>> >>>
>> >>> Open Source Integration
>> >>> http://fusesource.com/
>> >>
>> >> ---
>> >> Adrian Trenaman, Consultant Fellow, PS - Opensource Center of Competence
>> >> Progress Software Corp
>> >> Shelbourne Road, Dublin 4, Ireland
>> >> ---
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>> >> +353-1-637-2882 (Fax)
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>> >>  adrian.trenaman (Skype)
>> >> ----
>> >> Blog: http://trenaman.blogspot.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Cheers,
>> > Guillaume Nodet
>> > ------------------------
>> > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>> > ------------------------
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>> > http://fusesource.com
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Karl Pauls
>> [email protected]
>>
>
>
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