2010/12/1 Nicolas Lalevée <[email protected]>:
> Hi David,
>
>
>> Ok no response on this, but I've decided to update the file in any
>> case. Richard H pointed me at the
>> $felix-svn/framework/src/main/resources/default.properties file that
>> includes basically the same information as jvm-packages.properties.
>> This includes a version attribute which I think will be useful later,
>> so I've scrapped the previous contents of jvm-packages.properties and
>> gone with this new format.
>>
>> You should find this file (with associated ASL header) here:
>>
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/felix/trunk/sigil/common/core/profiles/jvm-packages.properties
>
> finally I used a modified version of jvm-packages.properties [1] because I 
> don't have a "property expander". Or maybe there is in Ivy but I wanted to 
> quickly fix the unit tests. I'll probably review this later to use the new 
> format.
>
>>
>> Out of interest I believe bushel and sigil are providing similar
>> capabilities - sigil has a mapping of OSGi meta data into an ivy
>> resolution - however the way we go about it looks quite different to
>> what bushel (does/proposes?). We perform import package resolution
>> using an OSGi resolver outside of ivy and then synthesis ivy modules
>> at runtime, I believe bushel is intending on pushing the meta
>> information into ivy.xml files and then use the standard ivy resolver.
>
> I think you have clearly summarized the difference here :)
>
>> Not saying either approach is right/wrong I think it'd be great if
>> there is any useful collaborations we can build once you're setup on
>> apache - let me know?
>
> The code has been imported. I am writing some doc right now. I'll try to 
> probably write something about the difference with sigil. Hopefully I'll 
> write something fair ;)
> I'll keep you posted if I write anything about Sigil.

Great it's always useful to get feedback :)

>
> I'm not sure how we can collaborate and share some code, but I would be happy 
> to do so. I'll keep subscribed to felix-dev.

Yep understood just to say I'm not pushing an uber answer here - in
the end it's about making a good set of tools to build code with -
where ever that happens is fine by me. I like what we've done with
Sigil, but there are definitely many ways to think about these
problems, I think at this stage trying all sorts of possibilities is
good. Should I follow the ant-dev list for bushel?

Regards,

Dave

>
> Nicolas
>
> [1] 
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ant/ivy/core/trunk/src/java/org/apache/ivy/osgi/core/jvm-packages.properties
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 4:19 PM, David Savage <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Nicolas,
>>>
>>> The commit you found replaces the profile files from Eclipse with a
>>> new file which I generated independently. My understanding is that
>>> given this file contains information that is public knowledge to the
>>> Java community, is of a different format and uses different file
>>> access semantics this constitutes it's own IP. As such I'm happy to
>>> apply the ASL header on this basis. If that is acceptable then I will
>>> push an update with this clarification, PM's please advise?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> 2010/11/29 Nicolas Lalevée <[email protected]>:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I was working on the import of Bushel into Ivy [1], and there were some 
>>>> files under the EPL which I had to remove from the import. These files 
>>>> were defining the packages which should be part of the bootstrap classpath 
>>>> depending on the execution environment.
>>>>
>>>> I then thought I would find such similar files in the source of Felix but 
>>>> ASL friendly. I have found them: [2].
>>>>
>>>> But the ASL header is missing. Then I started to wonder if this file was a 
>>>> real ASF one, and I searched svn and I have found a commit that makes me 
>>>> doubt [3].
>>>>
>>>> Considering the IP contained is these files, I think that the new file is 
>>>> safe to be an ASF one. So could you add the ASL header so there won't be 
>>>> any doubt ?
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Nicolas
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg42079.html
>>>> [2] 
>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/felix/trunk/sigil/common/core/profiles/jvm-packages.properties
>>>> [3] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=983901
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>

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