Although there was an OSGI F2F and a big mail outage, I haven't seen any 
response to this.  Please speak up soon or I will go ahead and remove the  
package with the  old felix specific admin api.

(locally, I have all the tests except those for factory components rewritten to 
use the new ServiceComponentRuntime api + DTOs).

thanks
david jencks

On May 5, 2014, at 12:14 AM, David Jencks <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've been working on implementing the DTO stuff and its apparent that there's 
> a larger problem than info format.  The current Component interface exposed 
> from the existing ScrService doesn't really make sense since it conflates the 
> ComponentDescription and ComponentConfiguration levels.  Furthermore it 
> provides what I consider very inappropriate access to the ComponentInstance.
> 
> (While implementing DTO support and multiple pid support I've removed the 
> "single component" that was always present in ConfigurableComponentHolder, 
> apparently to make the Component interface work.)
> 
> I think there are two more or less plausible choices:
> 
> - completely drop the org.apache.felix.scr package (people can use the spec 
> ServiceComponentRuntime service) (obviously this can't change the package 
> version, which won't exist.  What would it do the the bundle version?)
> 
> - provide new partial implementations of the classes in that package based on 
> the dtos.   As far as I can see they are going to be very partial since I 
> think Component is going to have to map to ComponentDescriptionDTO so there 
> won't be any information at all about any instances.  I suppose possibly I 
> could mimic the current behavior by basing most of the Components on the 
> ComponentConfigurationDTO but when there isn't one, basing the Component on 
> the ComponentDescrioptionDTO instead.  I really don't want to allow access to 
> the Componentinstance however.
> 
> If there is a really good argument for continuing to allow access to 
> ComponentInstance then I think is should be via an extension of the spec 
> ServiceCompomentRuntime,
> 
> ComponentInstance getCompomentInstance( ComponentConfigurationDTO instance)
> 
> Thoughts? Any other ideas?
> 
> thanks
> david jencks
> 
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Felix Meschberger <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> You are talking about the Shell/Gogo integrations ?
>> 
>> Yes, I think it would make sense to morph them into matching what the 
>> upcoming spec intents to do.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Felix
>> 
>> Am 16.04.2014 um 23:15 schrieb David Jencks <[email protected]>:
>> 
>>> The upcoming ds spec has a more sensible data format for DS components 
>>> built in, and I'd like to change the output of the SCR commands to match 
>>> this new format, so we don't have to maintain two sets of data.  The main 
>>> change is that instead of each component being represented by an 
>>> unconfigured instance or all the configured instances, there's a 
>>> "definition" layer showing what the xml tells you and then an "instance" 
>>> layer showing all the actual (configured) instances.
>>> 
>>> I hope that this will also mean we don't have to have unconfigured 
>>> instances around even when they aren't satisfied just to show the info from 
>>> xml.
>>> 
>>> Any objections to this in principle?
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> david jencks
>>> 
>> 
> 

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