On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:46 PM, David Jencks
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Ah, I didn’t realize you were talking about fixing the maven-bundle-plugin 
> rather than individual felix projects.
>
> It’s been a long time…. can’t you just mark the included dependencies 
> “provided” and the karaf tooling will come up with something appropriate?

'provided' turns out to have unexpected consequences for the
maven-failsafe-plugin. So, yea, you _can_, but there are some issues.


>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Benson Margulies <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> The functionality of the maven-bundle-plugin has some points of
>> comparison to the maven-shade-plugin. The shade plugin can be asked to
>> combine multiple artifacts into one big artifact; when you do that,
>> the default is to publish a pom that reflects that some of the
>> dependencies are now included in the resulting artifact by removing
>> them from the the published pom -- the dependency-reduced pom. For
>> example, if you have a dependency on (e.g.) com.google.guava:guava,
>> and you tell shade to incorporate it into your artifact, the d-r-p
>> will not include guava.
>>
>> When you use Embed-Dependencies in the bundle plugin, you are doing
>> something comparable. If you 'inline' them, you are doing something,
>> well, identical, in that the embedded content is now available for
>> both OSGi and non-OSGi consumers.
>>
>> (I'm not in a position to consider wandering from Maven to Gradle, so
>> my focus is on the Maven universe.)
>>
>> The scenario that hit me was this:
>>
>> 1. I have a pom for a bundle that uses Embed-Dependencies to pull in
>> about 12 non-OSGi jars.
>> 2. I used the result as part of a Karaf feature
>> 3. I had to exclude all those embedded jars, one-by-one, from the
>> Karaf feature, to avoid having them all show up as 'wrapped' bundles.
>>
>> So, I was thinking, wouldn't it be handy if I could choose to tell the
>> maven-bundle-plugin to act like the maven-shade-plugin. For this to be
>> fully-useful, the commonly-used 'depends' plugin (that produces
>> metadata read by Karaf rather than reading the real POM) would have to
>> sucessfully consume the 'reduced' version.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:23 PM, David Jencks
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I certainly haven’t rejected the idea because I don’t know what 
>>> dependency-reduced poms are.  I have no problem with the effect you 
>>> describe :-)
>>>
>>> Note that some parts of felix are trying to move to gradle/bndtools based 
>>> builds (dependency manager and scr at least) I’m not familiar with where 
>>> the poms come from in those projects…. but you might want to look at other 
>>> ones first.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> david jencks
>>>
>>>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Benson Margulies <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Has there been previous consideration of giving the
>>>> maven-bundle-plugin the ability to make a dependency-reduced-pom to
>>>> reflect embedded dependencies? When using the Karaf tooling that looks
>>>> at Maven dependencies, the presence of non-bundle dependencies (that
>>>> have been embedded) leads to unwanted 'wrap' bundles.
>>>>
>>>> I would take a run at this unless it's been considers and rejected as a 
>>>> concept.
>>>
>

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