Hi James,
Wiki looks great now.

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:27 AM Isaac Kamga <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello James,
>
> You've done a very great job organizing those pages on Confluence.
>
> The entire Wiki looks new and feels refreshing. More grease to your elbows.
>
> Cheers,
> Isaac Kamga.
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 2:25 AM James Dailey <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All -
> >
> > I've made a bunch of changes to the navigation and structure of the wiki.
> >
> > I'd like to know if I should deprecate additional pages.  For example,
> are
> > we still relying on the specifications under
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Apache+Fineract+1.0+Functional+Specifications
> >
> >
> > By Deprecating them, we would indicate that they no longer are
> > authoritative.   So, I think the question - are these pages still
> accurate?
> >
> > James Dailey
> > skype: jdailey
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:25 AM James Dailey <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Myrle - totally agree we don't want to have copy and paste going
> > > on.  Jira tickets are canon.
> > >
> > > I immediately found that a macro insert works -->
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Test+page
> > > but only for infra tickets.  I'll work on figuring this out.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the suggestion.
> > >
> > > @jdailey67
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 12:39 AM Myrle Krantz <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> If you're going to be carrying over information from Jira, you should
> > look
> > >> into whether its possible to use the jira integration in confluence so
> > >> that
> > >> it can be done automatically.  Then create shared filters on release
> > >> numbers and you have "one source of truth" rather than spreading
> > >> information between two systems and leaving everyone to wonder which
> is
> > >> canonical.
> > >>
> > >> I don't know though if this will work without Infra involvement.  You
> > may
> > >> need to ask.
> > >>
> > >> Best Regards,
> > >> Myrle
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 4:36 AM James Dailey <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi Isaac -- Thanks for the input. I'd also like to have community
> > >> members
> > >> > be able to more easily understand the needs and the priorities.
> Some
> > of
> > >> > that, I hope, can be incorporated into the FAQ.
> > >> >
> > >> > At the risk of expanding this topic just a tad, there should be a
> norm
> > >> for
> > >> > a newbie to:
> > >> > * Consult the main page, consult the FAQ, high level pages on wiki
> > >> > * Join the listserv
> > >> > * Browse some tickets
> > >> > * Set up dev environment (if coding) or demo environment (if
> > >> documentation
> > >> > or UI)
> > >> > * Dig further into wiki
> > >> > * Ask questions about specific tasks or code on the list
> > >> >
> > >> > I take Myrle's suggestion as to not have a roadmap that makes the
> > >> project
> > >> > look bad when we don't meet specific dates and capabilities. We want
> > an
> > >> > accurate reflection of the level of work going on and the actual
> > >> > priorities. The PMC report has had good information about what is
> > >> actually
> > >> > going on.
> > >> >
> > >> > Looking at just roadmaps, we want to focus, I think, on three
> levels:
> > >> >
> > >> > *Level A)* high level product roadmap - laying out broad areas of
> > >> > improvement or enhancement to communicate "what would be useful?" ;
> > >> >     in my mind, the high level community roadmap should be something
> > >> that
> > >> > is able to be referenced and not changed much over an 18 month
> period
> > >> >    this should not have dates, more about priorities
> > >> >
> > >> > *Level B)* roadmap of specific enhancements that stand in for the
> lack
> > >> of
> > >> > "Epics"  in apache jira set up. This may be too labor intensive so
> > only
> > >> > should be done for specific higher profile things.  ("Epics" are
> high
> > >> > level, can be related to a product need, and reference multiple jira
> > >> > tickets)
> > >> >
> > >> > *Level C)* a bit more controversial perhaps, but one thing I know
> > about
> > >> > open source projects is that they (we) should also have the
> > >> "anti-roadmap",
> > >> > the areas that fineract does NOT intend to do.  Why?  This gives
> space
> > >> for
> > >> > the commercial users of the code to come up with add-ons and
> wrappers
> > >> that
> > >> > then create the virtuous cycle of contribution. That anti-roadmap
> > >> should be
> > >> > fairly broadly stated.  e.g. we won't develop deployment tools or
> > >> training
> > >> > materials.... we leave that to other players in market
> > >> >
> > >> > So, I think for now, I'd like to mark "To-be-deprecated" on pages
> that
> > >> are
> > >> > not active, haven't been updated in over 12 months. If they are
> > actually
> > >> > active and relevant, then the person involved in maintaining that
> page
> > >> can
> > >> > easily remove that term, and if not, then after a reasonable period
> of
> > >> time
> > >> > - say 30 days - we put those pages into full Deprecated status.
> > >> >
> > >> > Given the discussion thus far and using our lazy consensus approach,
> > I'm
> > >> > going to move forward on the restructuring first.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > jdailey
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 6:49 PM Isaac Kamga <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hello James,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks for the immense efforts you're putting into making the wiki
> > >> more
> > >> > > visible and supple.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Besides being open source best practice, I think the community
> > roadmap
> > >> > > should be left there given it provides clarity to volunteers, puts
> > >> open
> > >> > > issues in context and doesn't coerce anyone with tight deadlines.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Cheers,
> > >> > > Isaac Kamga.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:56 PM Myrle Krantz <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Hey James,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > The FAQ looks good.  Really good.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I like your proposed restructuring of the Wiki too.  I would
> > suggest
> > >> > two
> > >> > > > changes:
> > >> > > > * Leave a space for discussing/document architecture/design
> > >> decisions.
> > >> > > > * Remove the roadmap.  We are mostly volunteers.  We shouldn't
> be
> > >> > making
> > >> > > > promises about future development.  We'll only be making liars
> out
> > >> of
> > >> > > > ourselves.  And besides, this area is mostly duplication of Jira
> > >> > anyways,
> > >> > > > so creating an area like this creates unnecessary data
> duplication
> > >> > > > efforts.  Or it means the task data are being captured solely in
> > >> > > > confluence, which just is less good than jira for that purpose.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > But since I won't have time to help you on it, you can take my
> > >> opinions
> > >> > > or
> > >> > > > leave them.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Best Regards,
> > >> > > > Myrle
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 12:51 AM James Dailey <
> > >> [email protected]>
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > Devs -
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I have noted a number of emails from people with basic
> questions
> > >> > about
> > >> > > > the
> > >> > > > > project and have tried to collate those into a FAQ.  Please
> see
> > my
> > >> > > > changes
> > >> > > > > to https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/FAQ.
> > If
> > >> you
> > >> > > > > object, either respond to this email or make comments on the
> > page
> > >> > > itself.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > As previously communicated I am also thinking we need to
> change
> > >> the
> > >> > > > > structure of the navigation for the project - the left side
> > "Page
> > >> > Tree"
> > >> > > > at
> > >> > > > >
> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Fineract+Home ;
> > >> > > > > While it is now familiar to many of us, to a new person I
> think
> > it
> > >> > > > remains
> > >> > > > > very confusing.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > @Myrle Krantz <[email protected]>  please suggest if this is
> > >> > something
> > >> > > > > you'd like to collaborate on...
> > >> > > > > The structure I think should follow this with other content
> > below
> > >> > these
> > >> > > > > two top levels:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >    1. Getting Involved & Community Norms
> > >> > > > >       1. Getting Started
> > >> > > > >       2. PMC reports
> > >> > > > >       3. Contributors & Committers
> > >> > > > >       4. How To Articles
> > >> > > > >    2. Fineract
> > >> > > > >       1. Roadmap
> > >> > > > >       2. Releases
> > >> > > > >       3. Getting started (pull out specifics to Fineract1.x)
> > >> > > > >       4. Functional specs
> > >> > > > >       5. User Zones
> > >> > > > >    3. Fineract CN
> > >> > > > >    1. Roadmap
> > >> > > > >       2. Releases
> > >> > > > >       3. Getting started (pull out specifics to Fineract-CN)
> > >> > > > >       4. Functional specs
> > >> > > > >       5. User Zones
> > >> > > > >    4. Blog & Outbound Communications
> > >> > > > >       1. Presentations Given
> > >> > > > >       2. Speech text
> > >> > > > >    5. FAQ
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
>


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