Thanks James for posting the results and your effort in putting together
this exercise. The results show a more aware community.
I have highlighted a few points from the survey report that are quite
important.

   - *The Apache Fineract website and the Getting Started Guide need a lot
   of work. As an example, the first thing the Getting Started guide does is
   confuse users and prompt questions: It says it is "for Fineract 1.x
   (non-CN)". What does that mean? Am I in the right place? What is non-CN?
   Does this apply to me? 1.x? Is there a later version of Fineract?
   Presumably CN stands for Cloud-Native. Surely cloud native is better. But
   where is it? Help! My point is that there is too much of a cognitive load
   when you come into the documentation. In fact I have learned so much more
   from lurking on the Listserv, and I must commend the friendly community. *
   - *The CN vs 1.x question would be much better if it had an open
   answering option, my opinion: CN has driven the community apart, abandoning
   an existing product that has active users on it and businesses relying on
   it like that was not a good decision of the project, and also not one made
   the apache way, it was very much driven by the team at that time pushing
   people onto a tech stack and buzzword bingo whereas the featureset was
   forgotten about (in a similar way it happened between Mifos and MifosX). It
   ultimately drove the efforts of collaboration apart and has resulted in
   various larger implementers/developer teams forking away.*
   - *Fineract CN architecture is too complex for proper contributing *

*The community should set off on a CN architecture review that should be
given at least 3 months of technical audit, bringing different stakeholders
together, bridging the differences. *

   - *New features implementations are not happening regularly. **Concerned*

   - *Maybe some tutorial videos would be great for the less experienced
   community (I don't know if they already exist) *
   - *User manuals for personnel without financial knowledge. **I know some
   great work that Bharat is doing on revamping this documentation together
   with other community members.*
   - *Have a CI/CD with Quality Assurance and Release Tag in the Source
   Code Repositories form more focused work teams (front back end) to
   streamline development **We need a strong GitHub workflow for partner
   organisations, distributed Dev  to get their PR reviews conducted faster
   than the PRs going stale.*
   - *Documentation is scattered and use cases other than micro-finance
   need to be highlighted. There is hardly a senior functional fintech
   influencer connected to the project at Product engineering level.
**Industry
   Participation is required.*


Most of these point to confusion "*between 1.x and CN, a review of design
principles of CN, the documentation standards that the project needs to
improve now"*.

I am really grateful to you for initiating a content change on the website
to mark CN as under dev & removing the confusion for industry peers, who
come across the Fineract project.

Thanks


On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 5:20 PM James Dailey <[email protected]> wrote:

> [Reminder - please stay on thread]
>
> RESULTS:  On Tuesday this week I gave a talk at ApacheCON about a few key
> themes.  One of those was a discussion of the recent Survey that I
> advertised here on dev.
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Survey+Results+-+2021+August
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Survey+Results+-+2021+August>
>
> A few key things jump out at me: (commentary).
>
> 1)  We have a growing number of people who are here (nearly 30%) because
> of their workplace.  They have been introduced to the project due to where
> they work.
> I believe this is a sign of a maturing project.
> Caveat:  Since we did not ask this question before in exactly this way, we
> will need to ask it again in a year or two to find out if this is a real
> phenomena.
>
> 2) n = 41, which is exactly the number of Committers on the project.
> Coincidence?!?
> or a sign that we're getting a good sample of engaged people?
> Next time I will ask if respondents are Committers or members of PMC.
>
> 3) Despite not having a formal release out, fineractCN is being used in
> production, and (for obvious reasons) clearly forked by a fairly high
> percentage of respondents. While fineract1.x is still dominant, the use of
> FineractCN by 22% of respondents is super interesting.
>
> 4) Related, and a sign of a healthy community, about 50% of the
> respondents said that they would be interested in helping with fineractCN
> despite a lower percentage actually using it and knowing what changes it
> entails.  That seems like a vote for Community!   It also suggests a
> strategy:  let's find out what those forks are doing, what domains, what
> features? [new thread to be started, related to Architecture working group
>  ]
>
> 5) We asked where "your customers are located".... meaning if you are an
> integrator or working for one, where are your implementations.  Africa
> region #1, Americas #2.  See the results.
>
> Please feel free to comment here.  Please stay on thread... i.e. it should
> be about what the survey is telling us, not some other thread.
>
> Thanks
> @[email protected] <[email protected]>
>


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