On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There's no reason we need to rely on Adobe for this. It's really not such > a big deal to create extensions that export to FXG. > > I have a lot of CS Extension experience and it would be an interesting > project. Of course, I don't have that much spare time… ;-) > > If we really think that FXG support is important, I can definitely help > with work a CS Extension for the apps that need it. The scripting support > in the different apps range from nearly complete, to pretty sparse, but I > imagine we could get pretty good coverage in most of them. Which apps would > you say needs the SVG/FXG support? I think we should have a single parsing > mechanism and convert to/from SVG and FXG. > > Harbs > > I have dabbled with CSIDE. I can help you out if you start this project. Thanks, Om > On Mar 15, 2013, at 12:16 PM, Sebastian Mohr wrote: > > > Thanks John, > > > > In case these "key differences" between FXG and SVG still exist, I don't > > understand why Adobe folks consider not to support FXG 2.0 and > forthcoming > > versions of FXG in their design tools - like Photoshop CS6 (and later), > > Illustrator CS6 (and later) and Fireworks CS6 (and later) ??? > > > > > > -- > > Sebastian (PPMC) > > Interaction Designer > > > > Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this code: > > http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:55 AM, John Cunliffe <mahn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> second hit< > >> > http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2008/09/30/why-adobe-chose-fxg-over-svg/ > >>> on > >> google for "why fxg over svg": > >> > >> When initial work on an XML-based graphics interchange format began, the > >> natural first thought was to use SVG. However, there are key differences > >> between SVG and Flash Player’s graphics capabilities. These include core > >> differences in SVG and Flash’s rendering model with regards to filters, > >> transforms and text. Additionally, the interchange format needed to be > able > >> to support future Flash Player features, which would not necessarily > map to > >> SVG features. As such, the decision was made to go with a new > interchange > >> format, FXG, instead of having a non-standard implementation of SVG. FXG > >> does borrow from SVG whenever possible. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Sebastian Mohr < > flex.masul...@gmail.com > >>> wrote: > >> > >>> @Alex ... you wrote this: > >>> > >>>> Don't PhotoShop and Illustrator output SVG as well? What is it about > >> FXG > >>>> that is a must-have especially if you are targeting HTML and not > Flash? > >>> > >>> I don't know why Adobe created FXG? For now, I just know that I need it > >> for > >>> my work as interaction designer when working with Flash Catalyst CS5.5 > >> ... > >>> Hopefully, Adobe folks on this list could explain that! > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Sebastian (PPMC) > >>> Interaction Designer > >>> > >>> Looking for a Login Example with Apache Flex? Please check out this > code: > >>> http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 3/14/13 12:33 PM, "Om" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'm not sure what Adobe gains by continuing to > >>>>>> spend resources on FXG support at this time. If you can show there > >>>> would > >>>>>> be > >>>>>> a significant upside, I will try to bring that case to the right > >>> people > >>>> in > >>>>>> Adobe. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I am not sure how I can convince Adobe, but here is my reasoning: At > >>> my > >>>>> current and previous companies, Fireworks is used just because of its > >>>>> ability to convert visual designs into FXG. We dabbled with > >>> Catalyst, > >>>>> but we found that the tool was too complicated to use for Designers, > >>> but > >>>>> too elementary for Developers. But, the ability to serialize visual > >>>> assets > >>>>> as FXG turned out to be the best way to skin Flex apps. > >>>>> > >>>>> On the other side, I am very proficient with Photoshop and not too > >>>> familiar > >>>>> with Fireworks. For my simple apps, I choose to create the skins in > >>>>> Photoshop and spit it out as FXG and just import it into Flex. > >>>>> > >>>>> I know other folks that used Illustrator for the same purpose. (BTW, > >>>>> Illustrator CS6 still supports the "Save As... > FXG > FXG 2.0" > >> option. > >>>> I > >>>>> just tried it out last night. Not sure what to make of this. ) > >>>>> > >>>>> Thats the possibility of three different tools Adobe could make money > >>> of > >>>>> off from customers who don't necessarily use these tools without FXG > >>>>> support. > >>>>> > >>>>> And frankly, the absence of this utility could potentially hurt my > >>> chance > >>>>> of making sure we dont move away from Flex where I work. > >>>> Don't PhotoShop and Illustrator output SVG as well? What is it about > >> FXG > >>>> that is a must-have especially if you are targeting HTML and not > Flash? > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Alex Harui > >>>> Flex SDK Team > >>>> Adobe Systems, Inc. > >>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >
