On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:

> Om,
>
> It doesn't seem to be working.  I think the alias I add still has to accept
> and have someone return a confirmation email.
>
>
Makes sense.


> What would be a plan B?  Could you set up an autoforwarding rule on your
> inbox that forwards the notifications to commits?  I'm ok with requiring
> each committer who has a whiteboard to have to do something like that if
> the
> popular email systems allow it.  I use outlook/entourage so I think I can
> do
> it, but I don't use gmail so I don't know if it can.
>

Can you add my email id: bigosma...@gmail.com to the allow list?  I can try
your idea of forwarding the emails from github.

Thanks,
Om



>


> On 4/27/13 3:39 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Looks like I am a moderator.  I think I correctly added notifications@so
> >> try again and let's see what happens.
> >>
> >>
> > My bad, can you please add nore...@github.com to the allow list instead?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On 4/26/13 5:18 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:55 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
> >>> <bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I just sent an email from my adobe.com account to commits@.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I got back a rejection that it had to come from my apache.orgaddress.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> That explains it.  I sent an email as my apache.org address, but from
> >> an
> >>>> alias like how GitHub sends the emails.  I also got a rejection
> >>>> notification.
> >>>>
> >>>> Greg, any chance you can use your moderator super powers to help this
> >>>> situation?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Om
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I found this nugget buried inside a similar discussion here [1]
> >>>
> >>> The moderator can send an email to: commits-allow-flex.apache.org=
> >>> notificati...@github.com (or something like that)
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>>
> >>
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/camel-dev/201209.mbox/%3CCALvzYd8XWd
> >>
> U
> >>> OuVtb90kOYhxX1rcW9bh=1z49dmn+z_hu9kv...@mail.gmail.com%3E
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 4/26/13 4:15 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Greg Reddin <gred...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I haven't seen any mod requests yet. I'm traveling this weekend and
> >>>>> will
> >>>>>>> have limited network access. I will try to look into it again next
> >>>>> week if
> >>>>>>> I don't see anything before.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sent from my mobile device.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> It should have appeared.  Could the list be filtering it before you
> >> get
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>> chance to moderate it?  Maybe you could add
> notifications@github.comtothe
> >>>>>> safe sender list before I try again?  Notifications sent to my
> >> personal
> >>>>>> email id works fine.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Anything else I could be missing?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Om
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:42 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
> >>>>> bigosma...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
> >>>>>>>> <bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Greg Reddin <gred...@gmail.com
> >
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm a moderator. Assuming the mails don't cause the spam filter
> to
> >>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>> engaged, I'll moderate them through.
> >>>>>>>>> Great!  I just sent out a test notification to
> >>>>>>> commits@flex.apache.orgfrom GitHub.  Can you check if it came
> >> through?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Another alternative would be to ask the committers to use their
> >>>>>>> apache.orgemail ids for their GitHub email ids.  And we can select
> >> the
> >>>>>>> option of
> >>>>>>>>> GitHub sending the email from the Author's email.  This way there
> >> is
> >>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>> moderation required because commits@f.a.o seems to allow all
> >>>>>>> apache.orgemail ids.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> GitHub validates the email addresses before it sends emails from
> >>>>> those
> >>>>>>>>> addresses.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>> Om
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I've sent another test email notification this time from my
> >>>>>>>> bigosma...@apache.org address. It did not automatically come
> >> through
> >>>>> as
> >>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>> expected.  Please take a look.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>> Om
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:25 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
> >>>>>>>>>> <bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com
> >
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Om,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I wasn't clear.  I think a key aspect of whiteboards on
> >>>>> GitHub
> >>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> have a commit to your whiteboard be seen on the
> >>>>> commits@flex.a.olistby
> >>>>>>>>>>>> anyone subscribed to commits@f.a.o without other work on
> their
> >>>>> part
> >>>>>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>>>>>> signing up with GitHub or being added as a member of the an
> >>>>>>>>>>> "organization".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We can't get an email to commits@f.a.o to happen for all
> >>>>> activity on
> >>>>>>>>>>> your
> >>>>>>>>>>>> whiteboard?
> >>>>>>>>>>> Short answer: it is doable.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Long answer:
> >>>>>>>>>>> I can add an organization-wide notification setting to send
> >> emails
> >>>>> to:
> >>>>>>>>>>> comm...@flex.apache.org.  The only problem is the list
> moderator
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>> commits@f.a.o should manually add notificati...@github.com to
> >> the
> >>>>>>> list
> >>>>>>>>>> so
> >>>>>>>>>>> that the emails can go through.  Who is the moderator of
> >>>>> commits@f.a.o
> >>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Om
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/13 11:04 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <
> >> bigosma...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Alex Harui <
> aha...@adobe.com
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Om,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for working on this.  Some questions:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1) do you have this actually setup?  If so, can you commit
> >>>>>>>>>> something
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> your
> >>>>>>>>>>>> whiteboard so I can see what the notification email looks
> >> like?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but with a private account.  I can add you as a member of
> >>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>> test
> >>>>>>>>>>>> organization.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We can 'watch' repos and notifications emails can be
> configured
> >>>>> [1],
> >>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> More details on Organiations available here [3]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2) When the contributor sends the pull request, how does the
> >>>>>>>>>> committer
> >>>>>>>>>>>> get
> >>>>>>>>>>>> notified?   Can an email go to the commits list?  Or does the
> >>>>>>>>>>> committer
> >>>>>>>>>>>> only
> >>>>>>>>>>>> get notified off-list?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We should be able to make the notifications go to any and
> >>>>> multiple
> >>>>>>>>>>> email
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ids [4].  We will have to add the <notificati...@github.com>
> >>>>> email
> >>>>>>>>>> id
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> our list.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Om
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://help.github.com/articles/watching-repositories
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>>>>
> https://help.github.com/articles/configuring-notification-emails
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [3] https://help.github.com/categories/2/articles
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>
> https://help.github.com/articles/notifications#per-organization-email-routin
> >>>>>
> >> g
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -Alex
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/13 10:27 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <
> >>>>> bigosma...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have been experimenting with a GitHub based workflow for the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> whiteboard
> >>>>>>>>>>>> repos for our committers.  Here is the workflow I would like
> >> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> propose:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Apache Flex creates an 'Organization' account GitHub
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Each Apache Flex committer is encouraged to create an
> >>>>> account on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> GitHub
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * The committer then posts their GitHub id on
> >>>>>>>>>> dev@flex.apache.organd
> >>>>>>>>>>>> asks
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to be added to the ApacheFlex@GitHub account
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * The Apache Flex PMC will add the committer's GitHub id to
> >> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ApacheFlex@GitHub account.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * In the contributing.md file [1] at the root of each
> >>>>> committer's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> github
> >>>>>>>>>>>> project, there will be information about Apache's contribution
> >>>>>>>>>>>> guidelines
> >>>>>>>>>>>> including a link to the ICLA [2]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Any public contributor is free to fork an ApacheFlex
> >>>>> committer's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> github
> >>>>>>>>>>>> project.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * The contributor makes a few modifications and is ready to
> >>>>> send a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 'Pull
> >>>>>>>>>>>> request' to the Apache Flex committer
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Before the 'Pull Request' can be sent, GitHub will
> >>>>> automatically
> >>>>>>>>>>>> point
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the contributor to take a look at the contribution guidelines
> >>>>>>>>>> first.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Theoretically the contributor reads the contribution
> >>>>> guidelines,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> agrees
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to it implicitly and clicks the 'Send Pull Request' button.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * The Apache Flex Committer now will have a chance to peruse
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> commits
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and decide whether or not to accept the pull request.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> There is another alternative I have been working on as well.
> >>>>>>>>>> There
> >>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> CLAHub [3] plugin for GitHub.  The workflow for this is
> >>>>> described
> >>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> same link [3].  I have been experimenting with this plugin but
> >>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>> found
> >>>>>>>>>>>> various issues with it.  I am currently working with the
> >>>>> plugin's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> creator,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jason Morrison and support@GitHub to fix these issues.  They
> >>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>> been
> >>>>>>>>>>>> very
> >>>>>>>>>>>> helpful so far.  I hope to be able to fix all the issues soon
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> send
> >>>>>>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>>> a demo.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if the above mentioned steps are sufficient
> >>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>> something like CLAHub plugin would be better.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Om
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/blog/1184-contributing-guidelines
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [3] http://www.clahub.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Harui
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Flex SDK Team
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Harui
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Flex SDK Team
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Alex Harui
> >>>>> Flex SDK Team
> >>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> >>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Alex Harui
> >> Flex SDK Team
> >> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> >> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>
>

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