OK, I think you may need to ask INFRA if there is something we can do.  It
might be blocked at a different level.


On 4/28/13 10:45 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> I sent you an email from the mailto the robot picked up.
>>
>>
> Got it.  Tried to send an email, but got a mailer daemon notice:
>
> <comm...@flex.apache.org>:
> Must be sent from an @apache.org address.
>
> I wonder why the invite dint reach me in the first place...
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
>
>
>>
>> On 4/28/13 9:38 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Tried On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, I added you.  Did you get an email from the list robot?
>>>>
>>>
>>> No I dint get any invite email.  Can you check if you got the email id
>>> right?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also, I realized I submitted noreply@ incorrectly so in theory it is
>> added
>>>> now.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I tried it again.  I dont see anything on the commits list.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Give it a try.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I will set up my mail forwarding and try again.  Not sure if it will work
>>> without me being added to the commits list...
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/28/13 8:58 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Om,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It doesn't seem to be working.  I think the alias I add still has to
>>>> accept
>>>>>> and have someone return a confirmation email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Makes sense.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> What would be a plan B?  Could you set up an autoforwarding rule on
>> your
>>>>>> inbox that forwards the notifications to commits?  I'm ok with
>> requiring
>>>>>> each committer who has a whiteboard to have to do something like that
>> if
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> popular email systems allow it.  I use outlook/entourage so I think I
>>>> can
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> it, but I don't use gmail so I don't know if it can.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you add my email id: bigosma...@gmail.com to the allow list?  I
>> can
>>>> try
>>>>> your idea of forwarding the emails from github.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Om
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/27/13 3:39 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looks like I am a moderator.  I think I correctly added
>>>> notifications@so
>>>>>>>> try again and let's see what happens.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My bad, can you please add nore...@github.com to the allow list
>>>> instead?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/26/13 5:18 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:55 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
>>>>>>>>> <bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I just sent an email from my adobe.com account to commits@.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I got back a rejection that it had to come from my
>>>> apache.orgaddress.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That explains it.  I sent an email as my apache.org address, but
>>>> from
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>> alias like how GitHub sends the emails.  I also got a rejection
>>>>>>>>>> notification.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Greg, any chance you can use your moderator super powers to help
>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> situation?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I found this nugget buried inside a similar discussion here [1]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The moderator can send an email to: commits-allow-flex.apache.org=
>>>>>>>>> notificati...@github.com (or something like that)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/camel-dev/201209.mbox/%3CCALvzYd8XWd
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> U
>>>>>>>>> OuVtb90kOYhxX1rcW9bh=1z49dmn+z_hu9kv...@mail.gmail.com%3E
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/13 4:15 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Greg Reddin <gred...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't seen any mod requests yet. I'm traveling this weekend
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>> have limited network access. I will try to look into it again
>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>> week if
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't see anything before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my mobile device.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It should have appeared.  Could the list be filtering it before
>>>> you
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> chance to moderate it?  Maybe you could add
>>>>>> notifications@github.comtothe
>>>>>>>>>>>> safe sender list before I try again?  Notifications sent to my
>>>>>>>> personal
>>>>>>>>>>>> email id works fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything else I could be missing?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:42 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
>>>>>>>>>>> bigosma...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
>>>>>>>>>>>> <bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Greg Reddin <
>>>> gred...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a moderator. Assuming the mails don't cause the spam
>>>> filter
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> engaged, I'll moderate them through.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Great!  I just sent out a test notification to
>>>>>>>>>>>> commits@flex.apache.orgfrom GitHub.  Can you check if it came
>>>>>>>> through?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Another alternative would be to ask the committers to use
>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>> apache.orgemail ids for their GitHub email ids.  And we can
>>>> select
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> option of
>>>>>>>>>>>> GitHub sending the email from the Author's email.  This way
>>>> there
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>> moderation required because commits@f.a.o seems to allow all
>>>>>>>>>>>> apache.orgemail ids.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> GitHub validates the email addresses before it sends emails
>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>>> addresses.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've sent another test email notification this time from my
>>>>>>>>>>>> bigosma...@apache.org address. It did not automatically come
>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> expected.  Please take a look.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:25 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
>>>>>>>>>>>> <bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Alex Harui <
>>>> aha...@adobe.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Om,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I wasn't clear.  I think a key aspect of whiteboards on
>>>>>>>>>>> GitHub
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> have a commit to your whiteboard be seen on the
>>>>>>>>>>> commits@flex.a.olistby
>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone subscribed to commits@f.a.o without other work on
>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>> signing up with GitHub or being added as a member of the an
>>>>>>>>>>>> "organization".
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We can't get an email to commits@f.a.o to happen for all
>>>>>>>>>>> activity on
>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>> whiteboard?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Short answer: it is doable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Long answer:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can add an organization-wide notification setting to send
>>>>>>>> emails
>>>>>>>>>>> to:
>>>>>>>>>>>> comm...@flex.apache.org.  The only problem is the list
>>>>>> moderator
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> commits@f.a.o should manually add notificati...@github.com to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>> that the emails can go through.  Who is the moderator of
>>>>>>>>>>> commits@f.a.o
>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/13 11:04 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <
>>>>>>>> bigosma...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Alex Harui <
>>>>>> aha...@adobe.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Om,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for working on this.  Some questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) do you have this actually setup?  If so, can you commit
>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>> whiteboard so I can see what the notification email looks
>>>>>>>> like?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but with a private account.  I can add you as a member of
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> test
>>>>>>>>>>>> organization.
>>>>>>>>>>>> We can 'watch' repos and notifications emails can be
>>>>>> configured
>>>>>>>>>>> [1],
>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>>>>> More details on Organiations available here [3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) When the contributor sends the pull request, how does the
>>>>>>>>>>>> committer
>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>> notified?   Can an email go to the commits list?  Or does the
>>>>>>>>>>>> committer
>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>> get notified off-list?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We should be able to make the notifications go to any and
>>>>>>>>>>> multiple
>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>> ids [4].  We will have to add the <notificati...@github.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>> id
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> our list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://help.github.com/articles/watching-repositories
>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://help.github.com/articles/configuring-notification-emails
>>>>>>>>>>>> [3] https://help.github.com/categories/2/articles
>>>>>>>>>>>> [4]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>> https://help.github.com/articles/notifications#per-organization-email-routin
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> g
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/13 10:27 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <
>>>>>>>>>>> bigosma...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been experimenting with a GitHub based workflow for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> whiteboard
>>>>>>>>>>>> repos for our committers.  Here is the workflow I would like
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> propose:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Apache Flex creates an 'Organization' account GitHub
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Each Apache Flex committer is encouraged to create an
>>>>>>>>>>> account on
>>>>>>>>>>>> GitHub
>>>>>>>>>>>> * The committer then posts their GitHub id on
>>>>>>>>>>>> dev@flex.apache.organd
>>>>>>>>>>>> asks
>>>>>>>>>>>> to be added to the ApacheFlex@GitHub account
>>>>>>>>>>>> * The Apache Flex PMC will add the committer's GitHub id to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> ApacheFlex@GitHub account.
>>>>>>>>>>>> * In the contributing.md file [1] at the root of each
>>>>>>>>>>> committer's
>>>>>>>>>>>> github
>>>>>>>>>>>> project, there will be information about Apache's contribution
>>>>>>>>>>>> guidelines
>>>>>>>>>>>> including a link to the ICLA [2]
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Any public contributor is free to fork an ApacheFlex
>>>>>>>>>>> committer's
>>>>>>>>>>>> github
>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>> * The contributor makes a few modifications and is ready to
>>>>>>>>>>> send a
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Pull
>>>>>>>>>>>> request' to the Apache Flex committer
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Before the 'Pull Request' can be sent, GitHub will
>>>>>>>>>>> automatically
>>>>>>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>>>>>> the contributor to take a look at the contribution guidelines
>>>>>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Theoretically the contributor reads the contribution
>>>>>>>>>>> guidelines,
>>>>>>>>>>>> agrees
>>>>>>>>>>>> to it implicitly and clicks the 'Send Pull Request' button.
>>>>>>>>>>>> * The Apache Flex Committer now will have a chance to peruse
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> commits
>>>>>>>>>>>> and decide whether or not to accept the pull request.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is another alternative I have been working on as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>> There
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> CLAHub [3] plugin for GitHub.  The workflow for this is
>>>>>>>>>>> described
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> same link [3].  I have been experimenting with this plugin but
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>>>>> various issues with it.  I am currently working with the
>>>>>>>>>>> plugin's
>>>>>>>>>>>> creator,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason Morrison and support@GitHub to fix these issues.  They
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>> helpful so far.  I hope to be able to fix all the issues soon
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> send
>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>> a demo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if the above mentioned steps are sufficient
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>> something like CLAHub plugin would be better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/blog/1184-contributing-guidelines
>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>>>>>>>>>>>> [3] http://www.clahub.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Harui
>>>>>>>>>>>> Flex SDK Team
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Harui
>>>>>>>>>>>> Flex SDK Team
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Harui
>>>>>>>>>>> Flex SDK Team
>>>>>>>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Alex Harui
>>>>>>>> Flex SDK Team
>>>>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
>>>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Alex Harui
>>>>>> Flex SDK Team
>>>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
>>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Alex Harui
>>>> Flex SDK Team
>>>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> Alex Harui
>> Flex SDK Team
>> Adobe Systems, Inc.
>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>>
>>

--
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Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

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