Carlos,

You are right, I'm sorry if my tone was to harsh! Too much storm lately
around all of this. I hope soon we will have better weather. :)

Best Piotr!

2017-09-18 13:26 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>:

> Hi Piotr,
>
> I think people could pick "Beads" as one of his options. We're all free to
> choose whatever we want.
> But I think this DISCUSS thread is very useful as well to express why this
> or that option should be considered for people voting
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> 2017-09-18 11:54 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>:
>
> > That's why we have VOTE thread, anyone can express their needs by picking
> > up some options.
> >
> > Encourage everyone for voting! Let's have it done!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Piotr
> >
> >
> > 2017-09-18 11:48 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > I agree with Om, that naming a project with one of the features is not
> a
> > > good strategy in marketing terms.
> > >
> > > Beads-Strand is a good feature that said a lot about the compositing
> > nature
> > > behind it, and something very relevant in FlexJS, but not should be its
> > > identifier. There's much more in our technology to focus naming in one
> of
> > > its benefits.
> > >
> > > I always go to our competitors: Think about "Angular"...is just a cool
> > name
> > > and with no implications about the internals in that framework.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Carlos
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2017-09-18 7:30 GMT+02:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosma...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > One point of clarification.
> > > >
> > > > The Beads concept comes into play only in the FlexJS SDK and not in
> the
> > > > Flex Falcon or FalconJX compiler.  Some day it could be
> > FalconWebAssemby
> > > or
> > > > FalconIOS.
> > > >
> > > > Naming the Apache project as Beads means that we are highlighting
> only
> > > the
> > > > SDK and not the cross-compilers.  Are we okay with that?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Om
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sep 17, 2017 4:00 AM, "Harbs" <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Piotr,
> > > > >
> > > > > If you can start it that would be great. I’m very limited in time
> > > today.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Harbs
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sep 17, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can start the VOTE within 12H cause I don't see anything
> against.
> > > If
> > > > > > someone can start earlier that would be great.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Proposed title:
> > > > > > [VOTE] What should be new project name for proposed fork of
> FlexJS?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > List
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Description of VOTE from Harbs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > VOTE itself:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) Name +1 (Binding)
> > > > > > 2) Second Proposal
> > > > > > 3) Third proposal
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does it look ok?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Piotr
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 10:04 Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Let's bring together the most mentioned from this thread and
> > start a
> > > > > VOTE
> > > > > >> by Harbs's system.
> > > > > >> Let it be max 10 props.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Piotr
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 08:26 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid
> >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> BOJA also was/is software-related:
> > > > > >>> https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00143947
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Again, not a deal-killer.  One question that came to mind is
> > > whether
> > > > > we'd
> > > > > >>> spend too much time explaining why we called the project BOJA.
> > > That
> > > > > got
> > > > > >>> me thinking of it as an acronym as well.  Or maybe a new
> project
> > > name
> > > > > >>> should be an acronym.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> BOJA could mean "Bring On Javascript in Actionscript"  or "Bend
> > > Over
> > > > > >>> Javascript, it's ActionScript" (just kidding).  And if using an
> > > > acronym
> > > > > >>> for ActionScript it really should be AS, so BOJAS instead of
> > BOJA.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> AIMA is Apps In Mxml and Actionscript.  AIMA has 713 hits on
> > GitHub
> > > > for
> > > > > >>> Artificial Intelligence, a Modern Approach.
> > > > > >>> AIMAS has 313 hits and none in JavaScript.
> > > > > >>> AMAS has 466 hits.  68 in JavaScript.  One is an "Application
> > > > Server".
> > > > > >>> AMAS has been used by a few companies.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Other ideas?  But again, we are running out of time...
> > > > > >>> -Alex
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On 9/16/17, 10:54 PM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> To be clear, none of my findings are deal killers for the
> > proposed
> > > > > name.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> BOJA is the stock symbol for Bojangles Inc.  A chain of fried
> > > > chicken
> > > > > >>>> restaurants.
> > > > > >>>> Wiktionary defined variants of boja [1].  What did you say you
> > > > > thought it
> > > > > >>>> meant?
> > > > > >>>> Boja has 163 matches on Github, but I didn't see an exact
> match
> > > but
> > > > > >>> didn't
> > > > > >>>> check all.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%
> > > > > 2F%2Fgithub.co
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> m%2Fmudroljub%2Fbojanka&data=02%7C01%7C%7C474ae1cddaf34f798d
> > > > > 2408d4fd90895d
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> %7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C63641224461979
> > > > > 2854&sdata=JXw
> > > > > >>>> %2BN2o57mQyhCtuQy2NXKnzRLkZSK6nLzp62OU6FG8%3D&reserved=0 is
> > > "Simple
> > > > > >>>> JavaScript application for
> > > > > >>>> drawing in HTML5 canvas"
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> -Alex
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> [1]
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%
> > > > > 2F%2Fen.wiktio
> > > > > >>>> nary.org
> > > > > >>> %2Fwiki%2Fboja&data=02%7C01%7C%7C474ae1cddaf34f798d2408d4fd90
> > 895d%
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636412244619792
> > > > > 854&sdata=cr6x
> > > > > >>>> p272SB%2FCmqxvbx%2FXEHnVx03AlQpIzlAA4tUQAaw%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> On 9/16/17, 10:38 PM, "Harbs" <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 8:29 AM, Alex Harui
> > > <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID
> > > > >
> > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> A quick "suitable name search" on some other candidates:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Braid:  260 repos match with Braid on Github.  There is a
> > > project
> > > > > call
> > > > > >>>>>> BraidApps.  Could pose some confusion since we produce apps.
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Strand:  697 repos match Strand on Github.  First match was
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%
> > > > > 2F%2Fgithub.
> > > > > >>>>>> c
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>>> om%2FMediaMath%2Fstrand&data=02%7C01%7C%
> 7C1dc156ada9f442f4ee
> > > > > 0a08d4fd8e51
> > > > > >>>>>> 9
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>>> b%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6364122350772
> > > > > 72615&sdata=
> > > > > >>>>>> Y
> > > > > >>>>>> k5oLCpwtkSlGYJSqsfSd1dyRNl3rOx9LiNQh4IHLQU%3D&reserved=0.
> It
> > > is
> > > > a
> > > > > >>>>>> "collection of modular,
> > > > > >>>>>> reusable Web Components built upon Polymer"
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Beads:  971 repos match Bead on Github.  One,
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%
> > > > > 2F%2Fgithub.
> > > > > >>>>>> c
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>>> om%2Forsjb%2Fbeads&data=02%7C01%7C%
> 7C1dc156ada9f442f4ee0a08d
> > > > > 4fd8e519b%7C
> > > > > >>>>>> f
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>>> a7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee
> 1%7C0%7C0%7C636412235077272615
> > > > > &sdata=OQuLf
> > > > > >>>>>> 5
> > > > > >>>>>> ueW9aEbEV2rKSndy%2FbCHgWU33N0FgXG%2B%2BHmKc%3D&reserved=0
> > > claims
> > > > > to be
> > > > > >>>>>> "The Beads Project".
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Bend:  1676 repos match Bend on Github.  One,
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%
> > > > > 2F%2Fgithub.
> > > > > >>>>>> c
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>>> om%2Fevanw%2Fbend&data=02%7C01%7C%
> 7C1dc156ada9f442f4ee0a08d4
> > > > > fd8e519b%7Cf
> > > > > >>>>>> a
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>>> 7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1
> %7C0%7C0%7C636412235077272615&
> > > > > sdata=dpS%2F
> > > > > >>>>>> g
> > > > > >>>>>> FLFnwl0X2lgFfRpmHE1hrNeS7A2XnZ5ofFWqD4%3D&reserved=0 is a
> > > > > >>>>>> "statically-typed programming language
> > > > > >>>>>> for the web"
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Limber: 70 repos match Limber on Github.  One,
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%
> > > > > 2F%2Fgithub.
> > > > > >>>>>> c
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>>> om%2Fggoodman%2Flimber&data=02%7C01%7C%
> 7C1dc156ada9f442f4ee0
> > > > > a08d4fd8e519
> > > > > >>>>>> b
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>>> %7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C63641223507727
> > > > > 2615&sdata=Y
> > > > > >>>>>> h
> > > > > >>>>>> ZN5g76iGW8AtsBkb8zRu0bw%2Fo6spbqJU7SlYe%2BYpU%3D&reserved=0
> > is
> > > a
> > > > > >>>>>> "Javascript graphics engine
> > > > > >>>>>> written in coffee-script"
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Boinga: 3 matches.  The exact math is an empty repo.  Boinga
> > has
> > > > > >>>>>> interesting definitions in the urban dictionaries:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2
> > > > > F%2Fwww.urba
> > > > > >>>>>> n
> > > > > >>>>>> dictionary.com
> > > > > >>> %2Fdefine.php%3Fterm%3DBoinga&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1dc156ada9
> > > > > >>>>>> f
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>>> 442f4ee0a08d4fd8e519b%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0
> > > > > %7C0%7C63641
> > > > > >>>>>> 2
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>>> 235077272615&sdata=l1VYfLrPS5RL7cyzmzm6u7p1ujQSPQ
> drLUXL69HzX
> > > > > fk%3D&reserv
> > > > > >>>>>> e
> > > > > >>>>>> d=0
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%
> > > > > 2F%2Fdefinit
> > > > > >>>>>> h
> > > > > >>>>>> ing.com
> > > > > >>> %2Fboinga%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1dc156ada9f442f4ee0a08d4fd8e
> > 519b%7
> > > > > >>>>>> C
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>>> fa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178dece
> e1%7C0%7C0%7C63641223507727261
> > > > > 5&sdata=1mc5
> > > > > >>>>>> O
> > > > > >>>>>> j7MYL%2FqLZVjeo0fT1FupVfb0yumUQLMm07Fb9g%3D&reserved=0
> > > > > >>>>>> And used in a song in a popular children's animation sung by
> > > > Alicia
> > > > > >>>>>> Keys.
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Ouch… :-(
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Names like Böja are interesting, but for me, typing letters
> > with
> > > > > >>>>>> accents/umlauts/grave is hard for me.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> What about dropping the accents: Boja?
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> HTH,
> > > > > >>>>>> -Alex
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> On 9/16/17, 3:33 PM, "Harbs" <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> I like this one.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Harbs
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> On Sep 16, 2017, at 11:31 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
> > > > cottag...@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Braid (bunch of strands, right?)
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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