For me personally, would like to still keep the architecture image [1]
to show how it interacts with other systems.

This usually help people to see how Flink could fit into their
existing infrastructure pieces.

- Henry


[1] http://flink.apache.org/img/WhatIsFlink.png

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:55 AM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> I think starting with Ufuk's draft, de-cluttering it is a good start.
>
>  - Having a more prominent tag line
>  - Add some pictures for features back
>  - align the content as per Felix' suggestion
>
> That should give us a faster quick overview, but keep some serious content
> in the starting page.
>
> I especially like that we have the stack figure and the recent blog posts
> on the new website - that we should keep no matter what.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <ktzou...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Good points raised by Stephan, Felix, and Volker.
>>
>> Do you think we can achieve this by iterating on the new design? One thing
>> we can indeed do is de-clutter a bit. Apart from that, what high level
>> points would you like to see in the frontpage?
>>
>> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Markl, Volker, Prof. Dr. <
>> volker.ma...@tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>>
>> > -1
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > first and foremost, thanks to Ufuk, for the new design.
>> >
>> > However, I agree with Felix that the current page is more of a
>> > documentation than a front page.
>> >
>> > I wonder where would people who do not know about Flink already find what
>> > it is about quickly in a concise way?
>> > I believe that the landing page should give  information about features
>> in
>> > a "declarative way" (what, not how ;-) )
>> > before going into details.
>> >
>> > I also believe that the current page does a better job on this than the
>> > new design. To me the new design looks like
>> > a perfect architecture page and intro to the documentation, but not like
>> > the starting page of the project.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Volker
>> >
>> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> > Von: ewenstep...@gmail.com [mailto:ewenstep...@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von
>> > Stephan Ewen
>> > Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2015 22:01
>> > An: dev@flink.apache.org
>> > Betreff: Re: New project website
>> >
>> > I agree that we should have a "more serious content, less happy hipster"
>> > website.
>> >
>> > The current one is very nice, but I also think it has a tendency to pack
>> > too much content into a small space.
>> > For me (and probably other old people with less-than-sharp eyes), it may
>> > help to space things out a bit...
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I completely agree with Robert. Less marketing, more technical
>> > > information targeted to the user group.
>> > >
>> > > I think the diagram could be a little bit larger and the blog post
>> > > smaller, so that the lines meet in the middle ;)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 11.05.2015 14:39, Robert Metzger wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I think its fine when the front page looks a little bit more like a
>> > >> documentation.
>> > >> Flink is no fancy hipster app, our users are either sysops running it
>> > >> on a cluster or developers programming against APIs.
>> > >> I think the new website will convince this target audience.
>> > >>
>> > >> I agree with you that aligning the vertical separators might help
>> > >> visual structure of the page. I think we "only" need to center the
>> > >> vertical separator between the getting started and the blog/community
>> > section.
>> > >> The positioning of the first line is fine, in my opinion....
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Felix Neutatz
>> > >> <neut...@googlemail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>  Hi Ufuk,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But in my
>> > >>> opinion your page design looks more like a documentation webpage
>> > >>> than a starting page.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since you
>> > >>> get a really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So if you
>> > >>> wanna dive in deep, you can check out things in the documentation
>> > or/and wiki).
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure that
>> > >>> there aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean:
>> > >>> http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/
>> > >>>
>> > >>> This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea about
>> > >>> starting pages.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Best regards,
>> > >>> Felix
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> 2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <reckone...@gmail.com>:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>  Great!
>> > >>>> It looks way better than the current site :)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>  I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated
>> > >>>> Queries", I
>> > >>>>> think that is trademarked by Microsoft.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Otherwise, +1
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels
>> > >>>>> <m...@apache.org>
>> > >>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>  +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest
>> > >>>>> to
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>> merge
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>> issues
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> and
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> add a twitter feed to the front page.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning
>> > >>>>>> <ted.dunn...@gmail.com
>> > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>  If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend
>> > >>>>>> framing
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> that
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> on
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> the home page.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <u...@apache.org>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Hey all,
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> I reworked the project website the last couple of days and
>> > >>>>>>>> would
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> like
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> to
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> share the preview:
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental
>> > >>>>>>>> updates
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> at
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> any
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> time, but I think this version is a big improvement over the
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> current
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> status
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the website
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> today.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> – Ufuk
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >
>> >
>>

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