I agree with Gyula here.

Getting the API right is too important to "quick fix" it.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Gyula Fóra <gyf...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Matthias,
>
> I think Aljoscha is preparing a nice PR that completely reworks the
> DataStream classes and the information they actually contain. I don't think
> it's a good idea to mess things up before he gets a chance to open the PR.
>
> Also I don't see a well supported reason for moving the setParallelism,
> setName etc method to the DataStream, as these are specific things that you
> can only set on operators. The KeyedDataStream is not an operator on the
> other hand.
>
> Can we just wait a little bit for Aljoscha with this? If you really need
> his changes, you can for his branch and we can consider your changes after
> merging his.
>
> Regards,
> Gyula
>
>
>
> Matthias J. Sax <mj...@informatik.hu-berlin.de> ezt írta (időpont: 2015.
> júl. 31., P, 21:57):
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to apply the following changes to DataStream class
> > hierarchy:
> > https://github.com/mjsax/flink/tree/flink-2306-storm-namedStreams
> >
> > Please give some feedback if those changes are reasonable to you.
> >
> > I need those change to get a clean design for
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-2306
> >
> >
> > -Matthias
> >
> >
> >
> > On 07/29/2015 12:07 PM, Matthias J. Sax wrote:
> > > What is the expected time frame for you work? I don't want to delay my
> > > work too long (if I base it on your branch, it could not be merged
> > > before yours).
> > >
> > > Right now, you did not change the class hierarchy. However, that is
> what
> > > I would need. Thus, it make no sense to use you branch as a base right
> > > now. What are your plans about this?
> > >
> > > -> one side comment: would it make sense to make DataStream abstract?
> > >
> > > From my point of view, it make most sense to me, that I apply the
> > > changes I need in my PR directly (based on master).
> > >
> > > -Matthias
> > >
> > >
> > > On 07/29/2015 08:11 AM, Aljoscha Krettek wrote:
> > >> Right now it's mostly under-the-hood changes but you can look at the
> > >> progress here:
> https://github.com/aljoscha/flink/tree/stream-api-rework
> > >>
> > >> The commit is going to change, so if you do put your work on top of it
> > you
> > >> might have to rebase.
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 at 07:26 Matthias J. Sax <
> > mj...@informatik.hu-berlin.de>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> My current work depends on a clean design of those. Otherwise, my own
> > >>> code would get very messy. I would like to apply some changes in my
> own
> > >>> PR (not opened yet). Do you thinks this is feasible? I don't want get
> > in
> > >>> a messy state. What kind of changes are you going to apply in
> > FLINK-2398?
> > >>>
> > >>> -Matthias
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 07/28/2015 10:30 PM, Aljoscha Krettek wrote:
> > >>>> Yes, very good points. I think we will be fixing these when we do
> the
> > API
> > >>>> cleanups that we discussed on the wiki design docs. In fact, the
> work
> > I'm
> > >>>> doing on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-2398 can be
> > seen as
> > >>>> preparation for making these changes possible/easier.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 at 21:56 Matthias J. Sax <
> > >>> mj...@informatik.hu-berlin.de>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I am a little bit confused about the class hierarchy of DataStream.
> > It
> > >>>>> has three subclasses: KeyedDataStream, SingleOutputStreamOperator,
> > and
> > >>>>> SplitDataStream.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 1) Why is the name "SingleOutputStreamOperator" (why OPERATOR ??)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 2) Is it correct, that a SplitDataStream emit multiple logical
> output
> > >>>>> streams, while SingleOutputStreamOperator and KeyedDataStream emit
> a
> > >>>>> single logical output stream?
> > >>>>>    => If yes, why is a KeyedDataStream not a subclass of
> > >>>>> SingleOutputStreamOperator ?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 3)
> > >>>>>   a) Why does only SingleOutputStreamOperator has method
> > >>> name()/getName()?
> > >>>>>   b) Why does only SingleOutputStreamOperator has method
> > >>> setParallelism()?
> > >>>>>   c) Should those methods be members of DataStream instead?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -Matthias
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
>

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