Hey all, I'm now getting more and more MODERATE emails from the mailing list service for the user-zh@ list from people trying to subscribe. I would like to ask if any committer (who ideally speaks Chinese) is willing to moderate the user-zh@ list.
This works as follows: When somebody who is not subscribed to the mailing list is trying to post a message there, the moderators receive an email like this: > To approve: > user-zh-accept-1550048049.51177....@flink.apache.org > <user-zh-accept-1550048049.51177.nx...@flink.apache.org>To reject: > user-zh-reject-1550048049.51177.x...@flink.apache.org > <user-zh-reject-1550048049.51177xx...@flink.apache.org>To give a reason > to reject: > %%% Start comment > %%% End comment > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "XXXX" <xxx...@163.com> > To: user...@flink.apache.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2019 16:37:19 +0800 > Subject: Sub > Sub This means xxx...@163.com has send an email to user...@flink.apache.org without being subscribed. Option 1 is to send an email to user-zh-accept-1550048049.51177....@flink.apache.org <user-zh-accept-1550048049.51177.nx...@flink.apache.org> to accept this message to the list. But in this case, the message does not have any meaningful content. So instead, what I do is, I directly send an email to xxx...@163.com, explaining how to subscribe to the mailing list. It is important that people on the user list are subscribed before posting, so that they receive the answers to their questions. In rare cases people send emails that moderators can just accept (for example when a well-known subscriber to the list is accidentally posting from a different address). Which Flink committer is willing to help out here? Best, Robert On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 10:29 AM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> wrote: > Cheers! > > Subscribed. Looking forward to the first Chinese question ;) > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 17:16, Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Success! > > The mailing list has been created. > > > > Send an email to "user-zh-subscr...@flink.apache.org" to subscribe! > > I've also updated the website with the list: > > https://flink.apache.org/community.html > > > > I will now also tweet about it, even though I believe it'll be more > > important to advertise the list on Chinese social media platforms. > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 1:52 AM ZILI CHEN <wander4...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > +1，sounds good > > > > > > Ufuk Celebi <u...@apache.org> 于2019年1月29日周二 上午1:46写道： > > > > > > > I'm late to this party but big +1. Great idea! I think this will help > > > > to better represent the actual Flink community size and increase > > > > interaction between the English and non-English speaking community. > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 6:02 PM jincheng sun < > sunjincheng...@gmail.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > +1，I like the idea very much！ > > > > > > > > > > Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>于2019年1月24日 周四19:15写道： > > > > > > > > > > > Hey all, > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to create a new user support mailing list called " > > > > > > user...@flink.apache.org" to cater the Chinese-speaking Flink > > > > community. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why? > > > > > > In the last year 24% of the traffic on flink.apache.org came > from > > > the > > > > US, > > > > > > 22% from China. In the last three months, China is at 30%, the US > > at > > > > 20%. > > > > > > An additional data point is that there's a Flink DingTalk group > > with > > > > more > > > > > > than 5000 members, asking Flink questions. > > > > > > I believe that knowledge about Flink should be available in > public > > > > forums > > > > > > (our mailing list), indexable by search engines. If there's a > huge > > > > demand > > > > > > in a Chinese language support, we as a community should provide > > these > > > > users > > > > > > the tools they need, to grow our community and to allow them to > > > follow > > > > the > > > > > > Apache way. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it possible? > > > > > > I believe it is, because a number of other Apache projects are > > > running > > > > > > non-English user@ mailing lists. > > > > > > Apache OpenOffice, Cocoon, OpenMeetings, CloudStack all have > > > > non-English > > > > > > lists: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ > > > > > > One thing I want to make very clear in this discussion is that > all > > > > project > > > > > > decisions, developer discussions, JIRA tickets etc. need to > happen > > in > > > > > > English, as this is the primary language of the Apache Foundation > > and > > > > our > > > > > > community. > > > > > > We should also clarify this on the page listing the mailing > lists. > > > > > > > > > > > > How? > > > > > > If there is consensus in this discussion thread, I would request > > the > > > > new > > > > > > mailing list next Monday. > > > > > > In case of discussions, I will start a vote on Monday or when the > > > > > > discussions have stopped. > > > > > > Then, we should put the new list on our website and start > promoting > > > it > > > > (in > > > > > > said DingTalk group and on social media). > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know what you think about this idea :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: In case you are wondering what ZH stands for: > > > > > > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ZH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
