Hi Robert,

I'll be willing to help with moderating the user-zh@ list.

Cheers,
Gordon

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 5:05 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I'm now getting more and more MODERATE emails from the mailing list service
> for the user-zh@ list from people trying to subscribe.
> I would like to ask if any committer (who ideally speaks Chinese) is
> willing to moderate the user-zh@ list.
>
> This works as follows:
> When somebody who is not subscribed to the mailing list is trying to post a
> message there, the moderators receive an email like this:
>
>
> > To approve:
> >    user-zh-accept-1550048049.51177....@flink.apache.org
> > <user-zh-accept-1550048049.51177.nx...@flink.apache.org>To reject:
> >    user-zh-reject-1550048049.51177.x...@flink.apache.org
> > <user-zh-reject-1550048049.51177xx...@flink.apache.org>To give a reason
> > to reject:
> > %%% Start comment
> > %%% End comment
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "XXXX" <xxx...@163.com>
> > To: user...@flink.apache.org
> > Cc:
> > Bcc:
> > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2019 16:37:19 +0800
> > Subject: Sub
> > Sub
>
>
> This means xxx...@163.com has send an email to user...@flink.apache.org
> without being subscribed.
> Option 1 is to send an email to
> user-zh-accept-1550048049.51177....@flink.apache.org
> <user-zh-accept-1550048049.51177.nx...@flink.apache.org> to accept this
> message to the list. But in this case, the message does not have any
> meaningful content.
> So instead, what I do is, I directly send an email to xxx...@163.com,
> explaining how to subscribe to the mailing list.
> It is important that people on the user list are subscribed before posting,
> so that they receive the answers to their questions.
>
> In rare cases people send emails that moderators can just accept (for
> example when a well-known subscriber to the list is accidentally posting
> from a different address).
>
> Which Flink committer is willing to help out here?
>
> Best,
> Robert
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 10:29 AM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Subscribed. Looking forward to the first Chinese question ;)
> >
> > On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 17:16, Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Success!
> > > The mailing list has been created.
> > >
> > > Send an email to "user-zh-subscr...@flink.apache.org" to subscribe!
> > > I've also updated the website with the list:
> > > https://flink.apache.org/community.html
> > >
> > > I will now also tweet about it, even though I believe it'll be more
> > > important to advertise the list on Chinese social media platforms.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 1:52 AM ZILI CHEN <wander4...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1,sounds good
> > > >
> > > > Ufuk Celebi <u...@apache.org> 于2019年1月29日周二 上午1:46写道:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm late to this party but big +1. Great idea! I think this will
> help
> > > > > to better represent the actual Flink community size and increase
> > > > > interaction between the English and non-English speaking community.
> > > > > :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 6:02 PM jincheng sun <
> > sunjincheng...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +1,I like the idea very much!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>于2019年1月24日 周四19:15写道:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would like to create a new user support mailing list called "
> > > > > > > user...@flink.apache.org" to cater the Chinese-speaking Flink
> > > > > community.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why?
> > > > > > > In the last year 24% of the traffic on flink.apache.org came
> > from
> > > > the
> > > > > US,
> > > > > > > 22% from China. In the last three months, China is at 30%, the
> US
> > > at
> > > > > 20%.
> > > > > > > An additional data point is that there's a Flink DingTalk group
> > > with
> > > > > more
> > > > > > > than 5000 members, asking Flink questions.
> > > > > > > I believe that knowledge about Flink should be available in
> > public
> > > > > forums
> > > > > > > (our mailing list), indexable by search engines. If there's a
> > huge
> > > > > demand
> > > > > > > in a Chinese language support, we as a community should provide
> > > these
> > > > > users
> > > > > > > the tools they need, to grow our community and to allow them to
> > > > follow
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > Apache way.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is it possible?
> > > > > > > I believe it is, because a number of other Apache projects are
> > > > running
> > > > > > > non-English user@ mailing lists.
> > > > > > > Apache OpenOffice, Cocoon, OpenMeetings, CloudStack all have
> > > > > non-English
> > > > > > > lists: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/
> > > > > > > One thing I want to make very clear in this discussion is that
> > all
> > > > > project
> > > > > > > decisions, developer discussions, JIRA tickets etc. need to
> > happen
> > > in
> > > > > > > English, as this is the primary language of the Apache
> Foundation
> > > and
> > > > > our
> > > > > > > community.
> > > > > > > We should also clarify this on the page listing the mailing
> > lists.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How?
> > > > > > > If there is consensus in this discussion thread, I would
> request
> > > the
> > > > > new
> > > > > > > mailing list next Monday.
> > > > > > > In case of discussions, I will start a vote on Monday or when
> the
> > > > > > > discussions have stopped.
> > > > > > > Then, we should put the new list on our website and start
> > promoting
> > > > it
> > > > > (in
> > > > > > > said DingTalk group and on social media).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let me know what you think about this idea :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > Robert
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PS: In case you are wondering what ZH stands for:
> > > > > > > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ZH
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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