+1 to drop the MapR page. For the other two I'm +0. I fully agree that the linked AWS and GCE pages are in bad shape and don't relate to a component developed by the community. Do we have any numbers from Google Analytics on how popular those pages are? If they are somewhat popular, I would prefer to "fix them" to be good starting points for users in those environments (probably by boiling them down to saying something simple such as "You should use FileSystem [...] and point it to [...].").
– Ufuk On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 10:49 AM Till Rohrmann <[email protected]> wrote: > > If the community cannot manage to keep the vendor-specific documentation up > to date, then I believe it is better to drop it. Hence +1 for the proposal. > > Cheers, > Till > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 3:12 PM Aljoscha Krettek <[email protected]> wrote: > > > +1 > > > > Best, > > Aljoscha > > > > > On 2. Dec 2019, at 18:38, Konstantin Knauf <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > +1 from my side to drop. > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 6:34 PM Seth Wiesman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi all, > > >> > > >> I'd like to discuss dropping vendor-specific deployment documentation > > from > > >> Flink's official docs. To be clear, I am *NOT* suggesting we drop any of > > >> the filesystem documentation, but the following three pages. > > >> > > >> AWS: > > >> > > >> > > https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/ops/deployment/aws.html > > >> Google Compute Engine: > > >> > > >> > > https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/ops/deployment/gce_setup.html > > >> MapR: > > >> > > >> > > https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/ops/deployment/mapr_setup.html > > >> > > >> Unlike the filesystems, these docs do not refer to components > > maintained by > > >> the Apache Flink community, but external commercial services and > > products. > > >> None of these pages are well maintained and I do not think the > > open-source > > >> community can reasonably be expected to keep them up to date. In > > >> particular, > > >> > > >> > > >> - The AWS page contains sparse information and mostly just links to > > the > > >> official EMR docs. > > >> - The Google Compute Engine page is out of date and the commands do > > not > > >> work. > > >> - MapR contains some relevant information but the community has > > already > > >> dropped the MapR filesystem so I am not sure that deployment would > > work > > >> (I > > >> have not tested). > > >> > > >> There is also a larger question of which vendor products should be > > included > > >> and which should not. That is why I would like to suggest dropping these > > >> pages and referring users to vendor maintained documentation whenever > > they > > >> are using one of these services. > > >> > > >> Seth Wiesman > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Konstantin Knauf | Solutions Architect > > > > > > +49 160 91394525 > > > > > > > > > Follow us @VervericaData Ververica <https://www.ververica.com/> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Join Flink Forward <https://flink-forward.org/> - The Apache Flink > > > Conference > > > > > > Stream Processing | Event Driven | Real Time > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Ververica GmbH | Invalidenstrasse 115, 10115 Berlin, Germany > > > > > > -- > > > Ververica GmbH > > > Registered at Amtsgericht Charlottenburg: HRB 158244 B > > > Managing Directors: Timothy Alexander Steinert, Yip Park Tung Jason, Ji > > > (Tony) Cheng > > > >
