thanks for checking and creation the ticket

yes, that probably makes sense

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 1:08 PM Yun Tang <myas...@live.com> wrote:

> Hi Sergey,
>
> I checked the CI [1] which was executed with Java21, and noticed that the
> StatefulJobSnapshotMigrationITCase-related tests have passed, which proves
> what I guessed before, most checkpoints/savepoints should be restored
> successfully.
>
> I think we shall introduce such snapshot migration tests, which restore
> snapshots containing scala code. I also create a ticket focused on Java17
> [2]
>
>
> [1]
> https://dev.azure.com/snuyanzin/flink/_build/results?buildId=2620&view=logs&j=0a15d512-44ac-5ba5-97ab-13a5d066c22c&t=9a028d19-6c4b-5a4e-d378-03fca149d0b1
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-33707
>
>
> Best
> Yun Tang
> ________________________________
> From: Sergey Nuyanzin <snuyan...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2023 14:41
> To: dev@flink.apache.org <dev@flink.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Experimental Java 21 support now available on
> master
>
> Thanks Yun Tang
>
> One question to clarify: since the scala version was also bumped for java
> 17, shouldn't there be a similar task for java 17?
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 3:43 AM Yun Tang <myas...@live.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Sergey,
> >
> > You can leverage all tests extending SnapshotMigrationTestBase[1] to
> > verify the logic. I believe all binary _metadata existing in the
> resources
> > folder[2] were built by JDK8.
> >
> > I also create a ticket FLINK-33699[3] to track this.
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/master/flink-tests/src/test/java/org/apache/flink/test/checkpointing/utils/SnapshotMigrationTestBase.java
> > [2]
> >
> https://github.com/apache/flink/tree/master/flink-tests/src/test/resources
> > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-33699
> >
> > Best
> > Yun Tang
> > ________________________________
> > From: Sergey Nuyanzin <snuyan...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2023 22:56
> > To: dev@flink.apache.org <dev@flink.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Experimental Java 21 support now available on
> > master
> >
> > thanks for the response
> >
> >
> > >I feel doubt about the conclusion that "don't try to load a savepoint
> from
> > a Java 8/11/17 build due to bumping to scala-2.12.18", since the
> > snapshotted state (operator/keyed state-backend),  and most key/value
> > serializer snapshots are generated by pure-java code.
> > >The only left part is that the developer uses scala UDF or scala types
> for
> > key/value types. However, since all user-facing scala APIs have been
> > deprecated, I don't think we have so many cases. Maybe we can give
> > descriptions without such strong suggestions.
> >
> > That is the area where I feel I lack the knowledge to answer this
> > precisely.
> > My assumption was that statement about Java 21 regarding this should be
> > similar to Java 17 which is almost same [1]
> > Sorry for the inaccuracy
> > Based on your statements I agree that the conclusion could be more
> relaxed.
> >
> > I'm curious whether there are some tests or anything which could clarify
> > this?
> >
> > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/mz0m6wqjmqy8htob3w4469pjbg9305do
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 12:25 PM Yun Tang <myas...@live.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Sergey for the great work.
> > >
> > > I feel doubt about the conclusion that "don't try to load a savepoint
> > from
> > > a Java 8/11/17 build due to bummping to scala-2.12.18", since the
> > > snapshotted state (operator/keyed state-backend),  and most key/value
> > > serializer snapshots are generated by pure-java code. The only left
> part
> > is
> > > that the developer uses scala UDF or scala types for key/value types.
> > > However, since all user-facing scala APIs have been deprecated [1], I
> > don't
> > > think we have so many cases. Maybe we can give descriptions without
> such
> > > strong suggestions.
> > >
> > > Please correct me if I am wrong.
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-29740
> > >
> > > Best
> > > Yun Tang
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Rui Fan <1996fan...@gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2023 16:43
> > > To: dev@flink.apache.org <dev@flink.apache.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Experimental Java 21 support now available on
> > > master
> > >
> > > Thanks Sergey for the great work!
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Rui
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 4:42 PM Leonard Xu <xbjt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Cool !
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Sergey for the great effort and all involved.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Leonard
> > > >
> > > > > 2023年11月29日 下午4:31,Swapnal Varma <swapnal...@gmail.com> 写道:
> > > > >
> > > > > Congratulations Sergey, and everyone involved!
> > > > >
> > > > > Excited to work with and on this!
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Swapnal
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 29 Nov 2023, 13:58 Sergey Nuyanzin, <snuyan...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> The master branch now builds and runs with Java 21 out-of-the-box.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Notes:
> > > > >> - a nightly cron build was set up.
> > > > >> - In Java 21 builds, Scala is being bumped to 2.12.18
> > > > >> which causes incompatibilities within Flink;
> > > > >> i.e. don't try to load a savepoint from a Java 8/11/17 build
> > > > >> - All the tests that are being skipped on Java 11/17
> > > > >> are also skipped on Java 21.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Huge shout-out to everyone participating
> > > > >> in review of my Java 21 related PRs
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If you run into any issues, please report it in FLINK-33163
> > > > >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-33163> .
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Best regards,
> > > > >> Sergey
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Sergey
> >
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Sergey
>


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Best regards,
Sergey

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