Thanks for pointing to FLIP-498, Timo. I missed that.

>From the FLIP-498 discussion thread, it is unclear to me whether people had
agreed to "discard" FLIP-313. The FLIP-498 discussion mentioned that we may
potentially still add the hint based options later, which is what was
proposed in FLIP-313. And I think we already see use cases in per function
instance options instead of job level configs.

@Timo, can you clarify that by -1, do you want to veto the technical
proposal of FLIP-313, or do you mean you want to have yet another FLIP
(other than FLIP-498) to add the hint based options? And why?

BTW, I feel that we can do better in dealing with similar FLIPs from
different contributors as well as FLIPs dormant for long. I'll start a
separate discussion on that rather than derail this thread.

Thanks,

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin


On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 3:22 AM Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org> wrote:

> -1
>
> This FLIP has been subsumed by FLIP-498: AsyncTableFunction for async
> table function support [1]. In the discussion for FLIP-498, we decided
> to discard FLIP-313 as it has been abandoned for a while.
>
> I hope this is ok for everyone. @Alan might give some timeline when this
> feature will land?
>
> Cheers,
> Timo
>
>
> [1]
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-498%3A+AsyncTableFunction+for+async+table+function+support
>
>
> On 26.05.25 07:51, Teunissen, F.G.J. (Fred) wrote:
> > +1 (non-binding)
> >
> > We currently use a custom async table source and join it using FOR
> SYSTEM TIME AS OF .... This approach has some challenges, especially when
> used after aggregations .
> >
> > Introducing support for an async UDTF would allow us to perform the join
> using LATERAL TABLE, which would greatly simplify the query structure and
> improve maintainability.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Fred Teunissen
> >
> > From: Becket Qin <becket....@gmail.com>
> > Date: Thursday, 22 May 2025 at 17:08
> > To: dev@flink.apache.org <dev@flink.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: [VOTE] FLIP-313: Add support of User Defined
> AsyncTableFunction
> >
> > I just realized this FLIP has never been voted to pass.
> >
> > +1 to the FLIP.
> > This is actually something long overdue. I feel it is even more like a
> bug
> > that we need to fix than a feature.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 7:36 PM Aitozi <gjying1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi devs:
> >>      The last comments in [1] has been addressed, I'd like to restart
> this
> >> vote thread.
> >> The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (until June 29th, 10:00AM
> GMT)
> >> unless there is an objection or an insufficient number of votes.
> >>
> >> [1]
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.apache.org%2Fthread%2F7vk1799ryvrz4lsm5254q64ctm89mx2l&data=05%7C02%7CFred.Teunissen%40ing.com%7C065ec6c9cf4b4473046c08dd994279de%7C587b6ea13db94fe1a9d785d4c64ce5cc%7C0%7C0%7C638835232969844437%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=sD%2Fwr7xdTScWh464iYJLgzW%2BdE0toaLGloZ5Jtmz%2F1U%3D&reserved=0
> <https://lists.apache.org/thread/7vk1799ryvrz4lsm5254q64ctm89mx2l>
> >> [2]
> >>
> >>
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcwiki.apache.org%2Fconfluence%2Fdisplay%2FFLINK%2FFLIP-313%253A%2BAdd%2Bsupport%2Bof%2BUser%2BDefined%2BAsyncTableFunction&data=05%7C02%7CFred.Teunissen%40ing.com%7C065ec6c9cf4b4473046c08dd994279de%7C587b6ea13db94fe1a9d785d4c64ce5cc%7C0%7C0%7C638835232969866359%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=IP%2FRjxDZqex0oXzKW58jAElrr7aWFu%2FNsouo7aYWB1E%3D&reserved=0
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-313%3A+Add+support+of+User+Defined+AsyncTableFunction
> >
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Aitozi
> >>
> >> Aitozi <gjying1...@gmail.com> 于2023年6月14日周三 09:47写道:
> >>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>      Thanks for all the feedback about FLIP-313: Add support of User
> >>> Defined AsyncTableFunction[1]. Based on the discussion [2], we have
> come
> >> to
> >>> a consensus, so I would like to start a vote.
> >>> The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (until June 19th, 10:00AM
> >> GMT)
> >>> unless there is an objection or an insufficient number of votes.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>>
> >>
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcwiki.apache.org%2Fconfluence%2Fdisplay%2FFLINK%2FFLIP-313%253A%2BAdd%2Bsupport%2Bof%2BUser%2BDefined%2BAsyncTableFunction&data=05%7C02%7CFred.Teunissen%40ing.com%7C065ec6c9cf4b4473046c08dd994279de%7C587b6ea13db94fe1a9d785d4c64ce5cc%7C0%7C0%7C638835232969879042%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=q7wFos19f0UtOLW6q0HhrtzGKS5THv5uQtLCxc3ZzfA%3D&reserved=0
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-313%3A+Add+support+of+User+Defined+AsyncTableFunction
> >
> >>> [2]
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.apache.org%2Fthread%2F7vk1799ryvrz4lsm5254q64ctm89mx2l&data=05%7C02%7CFred.Teunissen%40ing.com%7C065ec6c9cf4b4473046c08dd994279de%7C587b6ea13db94fe1a9d785d4c64ce5cc%7C0%7C0%7C638835232969891732%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=k5EGhhb5tWkqRLRY%2F1fuNJqCaKvtQB7vKFtbuwPkVPk%3D&reserved=0
> <https://lists.apache.org/thread/7vk1799ryvrz4lsm5254q64ctm89mx2l>
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Aitozi
> >>>
> >>
> >
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