Hi Becket,
sorry if my -1 was too rude in this case. I thought the VOTE is just
outdated and should be restarted, including a fresh FLIP number and
discussion for it.
If it is just about the hint based options approach, I don't have a
strong opinion and I'm sure we can evolve FLIP-498 further once it is
implemented.
> BTW, I feel that we can do better in dealing with similar FLIPs from
> different contributors as well as FLIPs dormant for long. I'll start a
> separate discussion on that rather than derail this thread.
I totally agree. I'm not sure if we have a process in the by-laws
already, if not we should add one. A VOTE that stays around for longer
than 6 month or so should be treated as rejected. In the end, all what
matters is to get the feature in and avoid discussions around
overlapping design docs.
Regards,
Timo
On 27.05.25 03:57, Becket Qin wrote:
Thanks for pointing to FLIP-498, Timo. I missed that.
From the FLIP-498 discussion thread, it is unclear to me whether people had
agreed to "discard" FLIP-313. The FLIP-498 discussion mentioned that we may
potentially still add the hint based options later, which is what was
proposed in FLIP-313. And I think we already see use cases in per function
instance options instead of job level configs.
@Timo, can you clarify that by -1, do you want to veto the technical
proposal of FLIP-313, or do you mean you want to have yet another FLIP
(other than FLIP-498) to add the hint based options? And why?
BTW, I feel that we can do better in dealing with similar FLIPs from
different contributors as well as FLIPs dormant for long. I'll start a
separate discussion on that rather than derail this thread.
Thanks,
Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 3:22 AM Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org> wrote:
-1
This FLIP has been subsumed by FLIP-498: AsyncTableFunction for async
table function support [1]. In the discussion for FLIP-498, we decided
to discard FLIP-313 as it has been abandoned for a while.
I hope this is ok for everyone. @Alan might give some timeline when this
feature will land?
Cheers,
Timo
[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-498%3A+AsyncTableFunction+for+async+table+function+support
On 26.05.25 07:51, Teunissen, F.G.J. (Fred) wrote:
+1 (non-binding)
We currently use a custom async table source and join it using FOR
SYSTEM TIME AS OF .... This approach has some challenges, especially when
used after aggregations .
Introducing support for an async UDTF would allow us to perform the join
using LATERAL TABLE, which would greatly simplify the query structure and
improve maintainability.
Kind regards,
Fred Teunissen
From: Becket Qin <becket....@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, 22 May 2025 at 17:08
To: dev@flink.apache.org <dev@flink.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [VOTE] FLIP-313: Add support of User Defined
AsyncTableFunction
I just realized this FLIP has never been voted to pass.
+1 to the FLIP.
This is actually something long overdue. I feel it is even more like a
bug
that we need to fix than a feature.
Thanks,
Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 7:36 PM Aitozi <gjying1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi devs:
The last comments in [1] has been addressed, I'd like to restart
this
vote thread.
The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (until June 29th, 10:00AM
GMT)
unless there is an objection or an insufficient number of votes.
[1]
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Best regards,
Aitozi
Aitozi <gjying1...@gmail.com> 于2023年6月14日周三 09:47写道：
Hi all,
Thanks for all the feedback about FLIP-313: Add support of User
Defined AsyncTableFunction[1]. Based on the discussion [2], we have
come
to
a consensus, so I would like to start a vote.
The vote will be open for at least 72 hours (until June 19th, 10:00AM
GMT)
unless there is an objection or an insufficient number of votes.
[1]
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[2]
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Best regards,
Aitozi
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