On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 21:23 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 13:42 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:...- making a skin have a default skinconf that can be overridden: in this way, all Apache could have an Apache skin with the copyright already set, and a consistent look;
Hmm, in 0.8 we will not have the traditional skins that we have right
now. They become views based on contracts.
I hope that's not what we are going to tell our users =-)
Why not? We are >1.0 and we are enhancing everyday. Why should I not
tell the user that the things we have done before now we can do better?
Don't get me wrong. I'm just talking about the wording, not the substance, which I feel is the right way forward. I don't think that many users would feel Forrest is easy, if to change style they have to change the "views based on contracts". ;-)
This contracts can be written the way you just suggested. Create a default copyright contract that can be used apache wide.
....BUT I would not suggest to keep it in the skinconf. The skinconf is to inflexible due to the fact that it is configuring the WHOLE site and not only on a per page/document base. What would you do when you have a one page or a couple of pages with different copyright notices?
This is part of the other thread, the per-page based properties. Skinconf should be only the default for each section or page, that can overried it's values, I agree.
I think I have to stop here on this, as one should now mix that thread with this conclusion and come to a unified design, and I'm too tired.
Wanna try? :-)
I am not only trying, dude. It is out there! Install the plugins and
have a look.
I'm talking about unifiend the new skinconf format with the more granular configuration Ross discussed about. I know that you did a very good job with the view concept, that has never been in question.
I am talking since November last year about the concept and finally got
the chance to implement it because I could take the time.
I know that the skins are coming from you and they are REALLY great but they have their limitations. In the future I HOPE that the same some committer will say regarding the view concept (I am already seeing limitations that I do not like).
It is not about an unified design it is about to make it happen. I would
be VERY HAPPY if you can/will enhance the ideas and the design.
To be honest I am only implementing it because I want to use forrest for
my own personal webpage (nothing more and nothing less) and I am sad
that you are tired because YOU ARE the one that we need to make it
really a success.
....but I guess that is your personal decision and I respect it because I
respect your work.
Sorry, I think you misunderstood, and I think it's my fault :-/
I just said I'm tired not because of this discussion, but because I start working at 7:30 and go to bed at midnight and work on Sundays.
I mean that I would like to help, and that I agree with the discussion and your work on the views, and that the evolution from the current skins is what I want to see... but that unfortunately, as much as I would like to help, I'm too tired because of a lot of real-life work I have to do now.
Sorry for the confusion :-/
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