This project is not in any danger of being “retired”. Ralph
> On Jul 26, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Daniel Dekany <[email protected]> wrote: > > Tuesday, July 26, 2016, 6:43:46 PM, Pete Helgren wrote: > >> I lurk as well but use Freemarker pretty much every day in a fairly >> narrowly defined way. I am a little fuzzy on the whole "graduation" >> discussion because I don't know who, exactly, is invited to participate >> (Mentors, IPMC, ?? ) so trying to peel out what I, as an FM user, need >> to weigh in on has been a bit of a challenge (so I remain silent). > > Basically, if the Apache officers look at the project and see that I'm > the only one who lifts any substantial weight here, they certainly > won't let the project graduate. If the project can't graduate for very > long, it will be terminated (called "retirement"). Well, I guess as > far as the project produces releases, it can hand around in the > incubator for quite while, but not forever... > >> FWIW I'll help however I can. My needs to "grow" FM have been few. It >> does what I want it to do and I am not strong enough in the Java skills >> department to feel like I can actively participate in development. > > Even testing new features is a big help. (In the recent few versions > there were many substantial new features. It would have be very useful > if more eyes look at them. Any bug or design oversight that slips in > can become a backward compatibility constraint.) > > -- > Thanks, > Daniel Dekany > >> Pete Helgren >> www.petesworkshop.com >> >> On 7/26/2016 2:34 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote: >>> Monday, July 25, 2016, 5:00:27 PM, Sergio Fernández wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 9:24 PM, Daniel Dekany <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The project's interest is to graduate, so obviously, I would prefer it >>>>> to graduate (and probably most mentors too). But I don't want to get >>>>> into a graduation vote that is improbable to pass. So I would prefer >>>>> if we first try to figure out the feelings of others. >>>>> >>>>> Does any of you know a precedent of a project in similar state >>>>> passing? >>>>> >>>> Not that I'm aware... >>>> >>>> You have to know IPMC we're normally very picky about community growth. >>>> Therefore, although couple of mentors we already expressed our interest to >>>> continue supporting the project (Jacopo and myself), there is no formal >>>> trace of that. So before approaching the IPMC at general@incubator I'd try >>>> to sort-out first the formal addition of the new PPMC members (i.e., vote). >>> Is it supposed to be a normal "Voting in a new PPMC member" votings as >>> described on http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html (CC-ed to >>> the IPMC and so on). I'm asking because all Mentors are already PPMC >>> members right now, because that's the initial status of Mentors when a >>> proddling starts. Should I add some explanation to the voting, like >>> that we are voting about who should stay even after graduation, or is >>> it the normal way of doing this? >>> >>>> After that I'd give it a try to the open discussion to see what's the >>>> general mood of the people... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Daniel Dekany >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thursday, July 21, 2016, 12:23:47 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you Sergio. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am wondering if we should first run a vote in this list to clearly >>>>>> express the desire of this community to graduate now (or wait). >>>>>> Then we could start the discussion in the general list. >>>>>> This is just an idea, if we prefer to ping the general list first, then >>>>>> great. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacopo >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Sergio Fernández <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think the graduation discussion has been spread in different threads. >>>>> So >>>>>>> I'd like to come back to the path. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From my point of view the project could be ready for graduation. The >>>>> single >>>>>>> issue that could block that is the evolution of the community. Jacopo >>>>>>> offered to bring up this topic into general@incubator, to see what's >>>>> the >>>>>>> feeling from the folks not so closely related to the podling. Do we >>>>> still >>>>>>> want to approach it in this way? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sergio Fernández >>>>>>> Partner Technology Manager >>>>>>> Redlink GmbH >>>>>>> m: +43 6602747925 >>>>>>> e: [email protected] >>>>>>> w: http://redlink.co >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >
