Wednesday, February 8, 2017, 1:14:37 PM, Sharan Foga wrote:

> Hi Daniel
>
> I understand your point and have included some responses inline.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
> On 08/02/17 12:35, Daniel Dekany wrote:
>> Wednesday, February 8, 2017, 10:29:39 AM, Sharan Foga wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I still think that we are not using Twitter as much as we could be
>>> and do understand the concern that our Twitter followers might not
>>> want to get messages about other things (e.g ASF, Apachecon, Community 
>>> Events etc).
>>>
>>> Social media is social so we can always ask them what they want :-)
>>> Twitter includes a tool to do a quick poll or survey and we can ask
>>> them what messages they prefer. What to people think?
>> I know I have already said this, but isn't it certainly enough that
>> they prefer messages about FreeMarker? (I suppose if someone has time
>> to burn and so want messages defined only by some broad common
>> interest, they subscribe to some person's tweet or such.)
> I'm not so sure. Not everyone knows what is interesting for them or not.

I understand that, but it's not part of the FreeMarker project mission
to help people to discover what they are really interested in though.
There are lot of online resources for that. But it's not like I want
to go into any philosophical discussion about this, I'm just noting my
standpoint.

> As an example - it is only when you see an interesting headline in a 
> newspaper do you decide that you want to find out more. If you don't see
> the newspaper headline at all then you don't know that there is 
> something interesting for you to look at.
>
> This idea is not about spamming people with messages they don't want -
> I'm actually talking about asking people what they want - using an 
> online twitter poll. Then they each have the option to give their 
> opinion and say Yes or No. To me this is what consensus and community 
> involvement is all about,  getting feedback from the community.

Well, do that then (as far as I'm concerned).

>>> Some more suggested tweets are as follows:
>>>
>>> Do you like our new Freemarker Twitter logo? We love it! Thanks to
>>> everyone who voted and JulienNicolas for the graphics
>> That bicycle shed was already painted.
> Yes it is, and it was a good paint job too, so why not celebrate the 
> community contributions that made it happen? Showing that your community
> appreciates contributions will encourage people to contribute more and
> also attract new contributors.
>
>>
>> Overall, I would like to point out that part of the FreeMarker
>> "culture" is that we just want users (programmers mostly) to get their
>> job done, and that's it. So chatty are semi-relevant messages to users
>> are kind of out of character. Personally, I would like that's value is
>> kept. Not sure if it's compatible with social media though... (:
>>
>>> Freemaker is doing great! Take a look at our Freemarker Project Maturity 
>>> Model
>>> https://s.apache.org/mree
>>>
>>> Let's think about redesigning the TemplateLoader interface for FM3.
>>> Share your ideas & comments on our dev mailing list
>> OK, let's post that one.
>>
>>> I haven't posted the tweet about the Committer How to as I think we
>>> may need some small changes in it, but I will start a new thread.
>>>
>>> If you have any ideas for tweets for the Freemarker twitter account then 
>>> please let me know.
>> (Sooner or later I will have to pull myself together and start some
>> Wiki page about where FM3 is going... Right now it's still too early
>> to bother people. I was kind of busy in the recent two weeks so, yeah,
>> I'm a bit behind with FM. Anyway, that will generate a few Tweets
>> too.)
> OK that's great! I'm sure quite a few people will be looking forward to
> finding out about that.

If there's any user commitment to FM, there will be sentiments for
sure... "How am I supposed to migrate to this??? Unsubscribed." (:

>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan

-- 
Thanks,
 Daniel Dekany

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