On 08/02/17 13:34, Daniel Dekany wrote:
Wednesday, February 8, 2017, 1:14:37 PM, Sharan Foga wrote:

Hi Daniel

I understand your point and have included some responses inline.

Thanks
Sharan

On 08/02/17 12:35, Daniel Dekany wrote:
Wednesday, February 8, 2017, 10:29:39 AM, Sharan Foga wrote:

Hi

I still think that we are not using Twitter as much as we could be
and do understand the concern that our Twitter followers might not
want to get messages about other things (e.g ASF, Apachecon, Community Events 
etc).

Social media is social so we can always ask them what they want :-)
Twitter includes a tool to do a quick poll or survey and we can ask
them what messages they prefer. What to people think?
I know I have already said this, but isn't it certainly enough that
they prefer messages about FreeMarker? (I suppose if someone has time
to burn and so want messages defined only by some broad common
interest, they subscribe to some person's tweet or such.)
I'm not so sure. Not everyone knows what is interesting for them or not.
I understand that, but it's not part of the FreeMarker project mission
to help people to discover what they are really interested in though.
There are lot of online resources for that. But it's not like I want
to go into any philosophical discussion about this, I'm just noting my
standpoint.

As an example - it is only when you see an interesting headline in a
newspaper do you decide that you want to find out more. If you don't see
the newspaper headline at all then you don't know that there is
something interesting for you to look at.

This idea is not about spamming people with messages they don't want -
I'm actually talking about asking people what they want - using an
online twitter poll. Then they each have the option to give their
opinion and say Yes or No. To me this is what consensus and community
involvement is all about,  getting feedback from the community.
Well, do that then (as far as I'm concerned).

Some more suggested tweets are as follows:

Do you like our new Freemarker Twitter logo? We love it! Thanks to
everyone who voted and JulienNicolas for the graphics
That bicycle shed was already painted.
Yes it is, and it was a good paint job too, so why not celebrate the
community contributions that made it happen? Showing that your community
appreciates contributions will encourage people to contribute more and
also attract new contributors.

Overall, I would like to point out that part of the FreeMarker
"culture" is that we just want users (programmers mostly) to get their
job done, and that's it. So chatty are semi-relevant messages to users
are kind of out of character. Personally, I would like that's value is
kept. Not sure if it's compatible with social media though... (:

Freemaker is doing great! Take a look at our Freemarker Project Maturity Model
https://s.apache.org/mree

Let's think about redesigning the TemplateLoader interface for FM3.
Share your ideas & comments on our dev mailing list
OK, let's post that one.

I haven't posted the tweet about the Committer How to as I think we
may need some small changes in it, but I will start a new thread.

If you have any ideas for tweets for the Freemarker twitter account then please 
let me know.
(Sooner or later I will have to pull myself together and start some
Wiki page about where FM3 is going... Right now it's still too early
to bother people. I was kind of busy in the recent two weeks so, yeah,
I'm a bit behind with FM. Anyway, that will generate a few Tweets
too.)
OK that's great! I'm sure quite a few people will be looking forward to
finding out about that.
If there's any user commitment to FM, there will be sentiments for
sure... "How am I supposed to migrate to this??? Unsubscribed." (:

What you (and the community) are doing is improving Freemarker so I hope that there will be even more people saying - 'thanks for fixing this...' and 'thanks for adding this functionality.....' :-)


Thanks
Sharan

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