Hi Marios-

Regarding...

*> Do you think this indeed will have a huge impact on the performance?*

There are many factors that affect performance.  A few things to consider
might be...

1. How well you planned and organized the data (e.g. partitioning strategy,
possible collocation).
2. How large are the data entries.
3. What type of queries you may be performing (which might be an important
factor in collocation, with the ability to run queries local to the node).
4. What data management policies are in effect (e.g. eviction, expiration).
5. What the logic in your SPs are doing and how effectively they can be
parallelized.
6. etc.

*> Is there any best practises for doing this or any demo you could provide
demonstrating this process?(SP to geode/gemfire functions)*

I know of customers who have migrated or are migrating from a RDBMS to an
IMDG like Geode/GemFire, but I do not know the results of their work.  I am
in R&D and not regularly exposed to that type of information.  Others on
this list might have better information for you.

Regards,
John


On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:59 PM, marios390 <
marios.sofocle...@creditsafe.com> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> As mentioned the other day, we are interested in lift all the stored
> procedures up into the
> cluster.Do you think this indeed will have a huge impact on the
> performance? Is there any best practises for doing this or any demo you
> could provide demonstrating this process?(SP to geode/gemfire functions)
> I would really appreciate it if you could provide any material related to
> this.
>
> Thanks
> Marios
> ________________________________
> From: John Blum [via Apache Geode (Incubating) Developers Forum] [
> ml+s70738n24351...@n6.nabble.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 6:35 PM
> To: Marios Sofocleous/IT/CREDITSAFE
> Subject: Re: Stored procedures on Apache Geode.
>
> Hi Marios-
>
> I may not be the best person to answer this.  There is a Pivotal GemFire /
> Greenplum Connector available for download here...
>
> https://network.pivotal.io/products/pivotal-gemfire/#/
> releases/5376/file_groups/495<redir.aspx?REF=ePuj29pLHnEN-
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>
> More information on the Connector can be found here...
>
> http://ggc.docs.pivotal.io/ggc/relnotes/release_notes30.html
> <redir.aspx?REF=IVeZQL0iyIj6DDR8gUm4MyheeHroZK
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>
> As you may know, Apache Geode is the open source core of Pivotal GemFire (
> https://pivotal.io/pivotal-gemfire<redir.aspx?REF=
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> ZwaXZvdGFsJTJlaW8lMmZwaXZvdGFsLWdlbWZpcmU.>).  Theoretically, it probably
> would/should work to connect Geode with Greenplum, though I have not done
> this and I am not sure it is a combination Pivotal nor the Apache Geode
> community supports.
>
> There is example of using this Connector with Geode here...
>
> https://github.com/mgoddard-pivotal/FraudDetection-wwko<redir.aspx?REF=
> mhVyYn6hNXwW9OLdPgBcsVH6ty0EvvNRtbL2w9DhzRm46E5Gas7UCAFodHRw
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>
> Which was the basis for this presentation/article...
>
> https://content.pivotal.io/blog/big-data-meets-fast-data-
> to-fight-fraud-and-more<redir.aspx?REF=MNgakfneuwuvyGbKlC_n_8RoNoNblBha1c_
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>
> -j
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 11:33 PM, marios390 <
> [hidden email]<UrlBlockedError.aspx>> wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Just a quick one,
> > Geode could be integrated with green plum and if not what alternatives
> for
> > this.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Ms
> > ________________________________
> > From: John Blum [via Apache Geode (Incubating) Developers Forum] [
> > [hidden email]<UrlBlockedError.aspx>]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 11:33 PM
> > To: Marios Sofocleous/IT/CREDITSAFE
> > Subject: Re: Stored procedures on Apache Geode.
> >
> > Hi Marios-
> >
> > It seems you and your team could be / mostly are likely dealing with a
> > high-volume of sensitive information, but without knowing a lot about
> your
> > UC(s) or particular application requirements/SLAs, I would recommend
> > starting small, simple and scale based on need.
> >
> > Geode is a highly concurrent and distributed system with strong
> consistency
> > guarantees.  Prematurely breaking the logic down into many individual
> > microservices early (especially for individual Stored Procedures... how
> > complex are these?) might unduly add complexity to your application and
> > system architecture.
> >
> > So my advice is to really evaluate the need to create individual
> > microservices first (which usually involves a platform like [Pivotal's]
> > CloudFoundry on an IaaS (or private infra) to manage effectively) vs.
> > starting small and just converting the Stored Procs into Geode Functions.
> >
> > Geode Function executions can be distributed across the cluster
> (similarly
> > to Map-Reduce, but far more robust) in a highly available and reliable
> > fashion.
> >
> > You might want to also read up on Geode's Partitioned Regions [1] for
> > effectively managing (partitioning and distributing/arranging your data).
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > -John
> >
> > [1]
> > http://gemfire90.docs.pivotal.io/geode/developing/<redir.aspx?REF=TgRQ_
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> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 1:09 PM, marios390 <[hidden
> > email]<UrlBlockedError.aspx>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > From: John Blum [via Apache Geode (Incubating) Developers Forum] [
> > > [hidden email]<UrlBlockedError.aspx>]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 9:16 PM
> > > To: Marios Sofocleous/IT/CREDITSAFE
> > > Subject: Re: Stored procedures on Apache Geode.
> > >
> > > Right.
> > >
> > > You can also review the Apache Geode documentation on Function
> Execution
> > > [1].  And if you are a *Spring* user, you can use *Spring Data Geode's*
> > > convenient Function annotation support for both Function implementation
> > as
> > > well as execution, here [2].
> > >
> > > NOTE: you will probably notice the link [2] refers to *Spring Data
> > > GemFire's* docs.  *Spring Data GemFire* and *Spring Data Geode* are
> > > virtually the same with no differences.  Eventually *Spring Data Geode*
> > > will have its own home with its own doc locations since it is finally
> > > becoming a top-level SD module [3].
> > >
> > > -j
> > >
> > > [1]
> > > http://geode.apache.org/docs/guide/11/developing/function_<
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> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 6:04 AM, Anthony Baker <[hidden
> > > email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=24312&i=0>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > A geode Function is conceptually similar to a stored proc but the
> > > > implementation is different. It's a java class that would use geode
> > apis
> > > to
> > > > execute logic within the cluster.
> > > >
> > > > Anthony
> > > >
> > > > > On Jul 12, 2017, at 11:13 PM, marios390
> > <marios.sofocleous@creditsafe.
> > > > com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I noticed that Apache Geode supports stored procedures as functions
> > > > running
> > > > > on nodes.
> > > > > Could you please elaborate on that since I am confused a little a
> > bit.
> > > > > Can I run for example Oracle SP directly on cache servers (nodes)
> or
> > > do I
> > > > > have to transform them somehow into microservices ( i.e spring
> boot)
> > > > which
> > > > > expose functions on nodes.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > View this message in context: http://apache-geode-<redir.
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> > > I really appreciate it for getting back to me. I will check it out.
> > > We are basically having a bunch of stored procedures and thinking to
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> geode. I
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