No, no... good question.

I just think it would be wiser if users created a single, CompositeKey
class type, with properly implements equals and hashCode methods, as I
pointed out.

I don't see any advantage in using a java.util.Collection as a key over
implementing a CompositeKey type.

As such, anything we can do to discourage users from using Collection types
as a key, I think is a good thing.


On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Jason Huynh <jhu...@pivotal.io> wrote:

> Yeah I am not sure if anyone does it,and I don't think it would be a good
> idea to use a collection as a key but just thought I'd ask the question...
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 2:33 PM John Blum <jb...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>
> > For instance, this came up recently...
> >
> >
> > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/46551278/gemfire-
> composite-key-pojo-as-gemfire-key
> >
> > I have seen other similar posts too!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 2:30 PM, John Blum <jb...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone actually do this in practice?  If so, yikes!
> > >
> > > Even if the List is immutable, the elements may not be, so using a List
> > as
> > > a key starts to open 1 up to a lot of problems.
> > >
> > > As others have pointed out in SO and other channels, information should
> > > not be kept in the key.
> > >
> > > It is perfect fine to have a "Composite" Key, but then define a
> > > CompositeKey class type with properly implemented equals(:Object) and
> > > hashCode():int methods.
> > >
> > > For the most part, Keys should really only ever be simple Scalar values
> > > (e.g. Long, String, etc).
> > >
> > > -j
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Jason Huynh <jhu...@pivotal.io>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I started work on the following plan:
> > >> - deprecate current "ALL_KEYS" and List passing behavior in
> > >> registerInterest
> > >> ()
> > >> - add registerInterestForAllKeys();
> > >> - add registerInterest(T... keys)
> > >> - add registerInterest(Iterable<T>keys)
> > >>
> > >> I might be missing something here but:
> > >> With the addition of registerInterest(Iterable<T> keys), I think we
> > would
> > >> not be able to register interest a List as the key itself.  A list
> would
> > >> be
> > >> iterated over due to the addition of registerInterest(Iterable<T>
> keys).
> > >> A
> > >> list in a list would be passed into registerInterest and again be
> > iterated
> > >> over.  I could change the newly created registerInterest call and
> > >> explicitly name it something else or are we ok with Iterables not
> being
> > >> able to be registered as individual keys.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 9:05 AM Kirk Lund <kl...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > John's approach looks best for when you need to specify keys.
> > >> >
> > >> > For ALL_KEYS, what about an API that doesn't require a token or all
> > >> keys:
> > >> >
> > >> > public void registerInterestForAllKeys();
> > >> >
> > >> > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Jason Huynh <jhu...@pivotal.io>
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Thanks John for the clarification!
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:12 PM John Blum <jb...@pivotal.io>
> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > This...
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > The Iterable version would handle any collection type by
> having
> > >> the
> > >> > > user
> > >> > > > pass
> > >> > > > in the iterator for the collection.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Is not correct.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > The Collection<E> interface itself "extends" the
> > >> java.lang.Iterable<E>
> > >> > > > interface (see here...
> > >> > > >
> > https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/util/Collection.html
> > >> > > under
> > >> > > > "*All
> > >> > > > Superinterfaces*").
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Therefore a user can simply to this...
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > *List*<KeyType> keys = ...
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > region.registerInterest(keys); *// calls the
> > >> > > > Region.registerInterest(:Iterable<T>) method.*
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Alternatively, this would also be allowed...
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > *Set*<KeyType> keys = ...
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > region.registerInterest(keys);
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Jason Huynh <
> jhu...@pivotal.io>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > Current idea is to:
> > >> > > > > - deprecate current "ALL_KEYS" and List passing behavior in
> > >> > > > > registerInterest()
> > >> > > > > - add registerInterestAllKeys();
> > >> > > > > - add registerInterest(T... keys) and
> > registerInterest(Iterable<T>
> > >> > > keys)
> > >> > > > > and
> > >> > > > > not have one specifically for List or specific collections.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > The Iterable version would handle any collection type by
> having
> > >> the
> > >> > > user
> > >> > > > > pass in the iterator for the collection.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:32 AM Jacob Barrett <
> > >> jbarr...@pivotal.io>
> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I am failing to see where registerInterest(List<T> keys) is
> an
> > >> > issue
> > >> > > > for
> > >> > > > > > the key type in the region. If our region is Region<String>
> > >> then I
> > >> > > > would
> > >> > > > > > expect registerInterest(List<String>). If the keys are
> unknown
> > >> or a
> > >> > > mix
> > >> > > > > > then you should have Region<Object> and thus
> > >> > > > > registerInterest(List<Object).
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I echo John's statements on VarArgs and type erasure as well
> > as
> > >> his
> > >> > > > > > argument for Iterable<T>.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Also, List<T> does not restrict you from List indexes. The
> > >> region
> > >> > > would
> > >> > > > > be
> > >> > > > > > Region<List<String>> with registerInterest<List<List<Str
> > >> ing>>().
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > -Jake
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 10:04 AM John Blum <
> jb...@pivotal.io>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Personally, I prefer the var args method
> > >> (registerInterest(T...
> > >> > > > keys))
> > >> > > > > > > myself.  It is way more convenient if I only have a few
> keys
> > >> when
> > >> > > > > calling
> > >> > > > > > > this method then to have to add the keys to a List,
> > especially
> > >> > for
> > >> > > > > > testing
> > >> > > > > > > purposes.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > But, I typically like to pair that with a
> > >> > > > registerInterest(Iterable<T>
> > >> > > > > > > keys) method
> > >> > > > > > > as well.  By having a overloaded Iterable variant, then I
> > can
> > >> > pass
> > >> > > in
> > >> > > > > any
> > >> > > > > > > Collection type I want (which shouldn't be restricted to
> > just
> > >> > > List).
> > >> > > > > It
> > >> > > > > > > also is a simple matter to convert any *Collection* (i.e.
> > >> *List*,
> > >> > > > > *Set*,
> > >> > > > > > > etc) to an array, which can be passed to the var args
> > >> method.  By
> > >> > > > using
> > >> > > > > > > List,
> > >> > > > > > > you are implying that "order matters" since a List is a
> > order
> > >> > > > > collection
> > >> > > > > > of
> > >> > > > > > > elements.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > This ("*It might even cause problems of pushing in
> > **multiple
> > >> > > > different
> > >> > > > > > > types.*"), regarding var args, does not even make sense.
> > >> > > Technically,
> > >> > > > > > > List<T> is no different.  Java's type erasure essentially
> > >> equates
> > >> > > var
> > >> > > > > > args
> > >> > > > > > > too "Object..." (or Object[]) and the List<T> to List (or
> a
> > >> List
> > >> > of
> > >> > > > > > > Objects,
> > >> > > > > > > essentially like if you just did this... List<Object>) So,
> > >> while
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > > > > compiler ensures compile-time type-safety of generics,
> there
> > >> is
> > >> > no
> > >> > > > > > generics
> > >> > > > > > > type-safety guarantees at runtime.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Jason Huynh <
> > >> jhu...@pivotal.io>
> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Hi Mike,
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > The current support for List leads to compilation issues
> > if
> > >> the
> > >> > > > > region
> > >> > > > > > is
> > >> > > > > > > > type constrained.  However I think you are suggesting
> > >> instead
> > >> > of
> > >> > > a
> > >> > > > > var
> > >> > > > > > > args
> > >> > > > > > > > method, instead provide a registerInterest(List keys)
> > >> method?
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > So far what I am hearing requested is:
> > >> > > > > > > > deprecate current "ALL_KEYS" and List passing behavior
> > >> > > > > > > > registerInterestAllKeys();
> > >> > > > > > > > registerInterest(List<T> keys) instead of a
> > >> > registerInterest(T...
> > >> > > > > keys)
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Will anyone ever actually have a List as the key itself?
> > The
> > >> > > > current
> > >> > > > > > and
> > >> > > > > > > > suggested changes would not allow it registering for a
> > >> specific
> > >> > > > List
> > >> > > > > > > > object.
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 6:50 PM Jacob Barrett <
> > >> > > jbarr...@pivotal.io
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > Geode Native C++ and .NET have:
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >   virtual void registerKeys(const
> > >> > > > > > > > > std::vector<std::shared_ptr<CacheableKey>> & keys,
> > >> > > > > > > > >                             bool isDurable = false,
> > >> > > > > > > > >                             bool getInitialValues =
> > false,
> > >> > > > > > > > >                             bool receiveValues =
> true) =
> > >> 0;
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >   virtual void unregisterKeys(const
> > >> > > > > > > > > std::vector<std::shared_ptr<CacheableKey>> & keys) =
> 0;
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >   virtual void *registerAllKeys*(bool isDurable =
> false,
> > >> > > > > > > > >                                bool getInitialValues =
> > >> false,
> > >> > > > > > > > >                                bool receiveValues =
> > true)
> > >> =
> > >> > 0;
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >   virtual void unregisterAllKeys() = 0;
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >   virtual void registerRegex(const std::string& regex,
> > >> > > > > > > > >                              bool isDurable = false,
> > >> > > > > > > > >                              bool getInitialValues =
> > >> false,
> > >> > > > > > > > >                              bool receiveValues =
> true)
> > =
> > >> 0;
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >   virtual void unregisterRegex(const char* regex) = 0;
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > I dislike special values like this so yes please make
> it
> > >> go
> > >> > > away!
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > -Jake
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 5:20 PM Dan Smith <
> > >> dsm...@pivotal.io
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > I don't really like the regex option - it implies
> that
> > >> your
> > >> > > > keys
> > >> > > > > > are
> > >> > > > > > > > all
> > >> > > > > > > > > > strings. Will any other regular expressions work on
> > non
> > >> > > string
> > >> > > > > > > objects?
> > >> > > > > > > > > > registerInterestAllKeys() seems like a better
> option.
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > -Dan
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Michael Stolz <
> > >> > > > > mst...@pivotal.io>
> > >> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > I don't like the vararg option.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > If i'm maintaining a list of keys i'm interested
> > in, I
> > >> > want
> > >> > > > to
> > >> > > > > be
> > >> > > > > > > > able
> > >> > > > > > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > pass that List in.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Varargs is a poor substitute. It might even cause
> > >> > problems
> > >> > > of
> > >> > > > > > > pushing
> > >> > > > > > > > > in
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > multiple different types. Keys must all be of one
> > type
> > >> > for
> > >> > > a
> > >> > > > > > given
> > >> > > > > > > > > > Region.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > I'm very much in favor of deprecating the ALL_KEYS
> > >> string
> > >> > > in
> > >> > > > > > favor
> > >> > > > > > > of
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > something that is typed specially if you refer to
> > >> > ALL_KEYS.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > If that works, then we don't necessarily need the
> > >> > > additional
> > >> > > > > API
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > registerInterestAllKeys(). But if ALL_KEYS can't
> be
> > a
> > >> > > special
> > >> > > > > > type
> > >> > > > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > > > > get
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > over the compilation issues then we should go with
> > the
> > >> > new
> > >> > > > API.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Mike Stolz
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Principal Engineer, GemFire Product Lead
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Mobile: +1-631-835-4771 <(631)%20835-4771>
> > <(631)%20835-4771>
> > >> > <(631)%20835-4771>
> > >> > > > <(631)%20835-4771> <(631)%20835-4771>
> > >> > > > > > <(631)%20835-4771>
> > >> > > > > > > <(631)%20835-4771>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Anilkumar
> Gingade <
> > >> > > > > > > > > aging...@pivotal.io>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > +1 Deprecating ALL_KEYS option; I believe this
> is
> > >> added
> > >> > > > > before
> > >> > > > > > we
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > supported
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > regex support.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >  Doesn't seems like a new API is needed. The
> regex
> > >> java
> > >> > > doc
> > >> > > > > > > clearly
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > specifies the effect of ".*".
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for deprecating list argument; and replacing
> > with
> > >> > new
> > >> > > > API.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -Anil.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Jason Huynh <
> > >> > > > > > jhu...@pivotal.io>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > For GEODE-3813 <
> > >> > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GEODE-3813
> > >> > > > > > > > >:
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Region
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > registerInterest API usage of type parameters
> is
> > >> > broken
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GEODE-3813
> > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > The current API to registerInterest allows a
> > >> special
> > >> > > > string
> > >> > > > > > > token
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > “ALL_KEYS” to be passed in as the parameter to
> > >> > > > > > > registerInterest(T
> > >> > > > > > > > > > key).
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > This special token causes the registerInterest
> > to
> > >> > > behave
> > >> > > > > > > similar
> > >> > > > > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > registerInterestRegex(“.*”).  As the ticket
> > >> states,
> > >> > if
> > >> > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > region
> > >> > > > > > > > > has
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > been
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > typed to anything other than Object or String,
> > the
> > >> > > usage
> > >> > > > of
> > >> > > > > > > > > > “ALL_KEYS”
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > as a
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > parameter results in a compilation error.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Proposals:
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to deprecate the special string
> > >> > “ALL_KEYS”
> > >> > > > and
> > >> > > > > > > > > document
> > >> > > > > > > > > > a
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > workaround of using
> registerInterestRegex(“.*”)
> > >> or we
> > >> > > can
> > >> > > > > > add a
> > >> > > > > > > > new
> > >> > > > > > > > > > API
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > called registerInterestAllKeys()
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we should also deprecate passing a
> List
> > >> > Object
> > >> > > of
> > >> > > > > > keys
> > >> > > > > > > > into
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > registerInterest.  It has the same compilation
> > >> > > > restrictions
> > >> > > > > > as
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > “ALL_KEYS”
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > when the region is key constrained/typed.  The
> > >> reason
> > >> > > why
> > >> > > > > > List
> > >> > > > > > > > > would
> > >> > > > > > > > > > be
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > used is to allow registering multiple keys at
> > >> once.
> > >> > > > > Instead,
> > >> > > > > > > we
> > >> > > > > > > > > can
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > add
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > new var arg API like registerInterest(T…
> keys).
> > >> This
> > >> > > > > problem
> > >> > > > > > > and
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > solution
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > was also documented in the ticket by the
> ticket
> > >> > creator
> > >> > > > > (Kirk
> > >> > > > > > > > Lund)
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -Jason
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > --
> > >> > > > > > > -John
> > >> > > > > > > john.blum10101 (skype)
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --
> > >> > > > -John
> > >> > > > john.blum10101 (skype)
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > -John
> > > john.blum10101 (skype)
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > -John
> > john.blum10101 (skype)
> >
>



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