Regretfully, I am voting +1 to retire the Geode project. During the PMC roll call and open discussion on dev/user lists, we did not find enough PMC volunteers to carry the project forward even at a minimum level. While the PMC roster was large the vast majority of the members were either inactive, have resigned, or indicated they are contributing on a temporary basis only (including myself).
Beyond that, Geode is a significant project with a large codebase and a reputation for quality. Keeping the code, libraries, and build system up-to-date and CVE-free is no small endeavor. There are tens of thousands of tests that will need skilled hands to troubleshoot the inevitable failures and flaky results. With only a single commit in October I am not seeing an active committer base moving the project forward. This compares to over 120 commits in October 2021. I don’t believe this is an anomaly—project activity has effectively halted. I think even if we met the minimum PMC criteria we are only delaying the inevitable without active committers. Anthony On Nov 2, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Dan Smith <dasm...@vmware.com<mailto:dasm...@vmware.com>> wrote: Any last votes on this? My current count: Binding Votes: 1 vote to move to the attic (Xiaojian) Non-binding votes: 2 votes to move to the attic (Donal and Ernie) 1 vote against and an offer to help maintain the project (Rupert) I'll let the dust settle for another day and then close this vote. -Dan ________________________________ From: Xiaojian Zhou <zho...@vmware.com.INVALID<mailto:zho...@vmware.com.INVALID>> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2022 10:51 PM To: u...@geode.apache.org<mailto:u...@geode.apache.org> <u...@geode.apache.org<mailto:u...@geode.apache.org>>; dev@geode.apache.org<mailto:dev@geode.apache.org> <dev@geode.apache.org<mailto:dev@geode.apache.org>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Move geode to the attic !! External Email Vote to move to attic. Regards Xiaojian Zhou, PMC of geode From: Dan Smith <dasm...@vmware.com<mailto:dasm...@vmware.com>> Date: Friday, October 28, 2022 at 3:15 PM To: u...@geode.apache.org<mailto:u...@geode.apache.org> <u...@geode.apache.org<mailto:u...@geode.apache.org>>, dev@geode.apache.org<mailto:dev@geode.apache.org> <dev@geode.apache.org<mailto:dev@geode.apache.org>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Move geode to the attic There is still an ongoing discussion on the private@geode list, let's go ahead and extend the VOTE deadline until at least Wednesday, November 2. As Anthony mentioned, only PMC member votes actually count. But all community members should feel free to cast their vote and help us reach a consensus. At the moment, I count zero PMC votes for or against this proposal. Thanks, -Dan ________________________________ From: rup...@webstersystems.co.uk<mailto:rup...@webstersystems.co.uk> <rup...@webstersystems.co.uk<mailto:rup...@webstersystems.co.uk>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 12:30 PM To: u...@geode.apache.org<mailto:u...@geode.apache.org> <u...@geode.apache.org<mailto:u...@geode.apache.org>>; dev@geode.apache.org<mailto:dev@geode.apache.org> <dev@geode.apache.org<mailto:dev@geode.apache.org>> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Move geode to the attic ‼ External Email Hello, I vote to keep an open source version. Volunteer for PMC. Please ping me. Cheers. -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Baker <bak...@vmware.com<mailto:bak...@vmware.com>> Sent: 25 October 2022 18:38 To: dev@geode.apache.org<mailto:dev@geode.apache.org> Cc: u...@geode.apache.org<mailto:u...@geode.apache.org> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Move geode to the attic I added the user@ list for visibility. I believe the purpose of taking a VOTE here is to look for community consensus on this idea and perhaps find new people interested in carrying the project forward. The votes of the existing PMC members are the ones that count, just like for a release. Quoting from [1]: "There are two expected mechanisms by which a project may enter the Attic. Either the managing Project Management Committee (PMC) decides it would like to move the project, or The Apache Software Foundation's board dissolves the PMC and chooses to move the project.” And "Projects whose PMC are unable to muster 3 votes for a release, who have no active committers or are unable to fulfill their reporting duties to the board are all good candidates for the Attic.” I’m holding my vote for now. I would vote +1 if I don’t see sufficient ability for the PMC to carry the project. 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I'm sad to find us at > this point. But given that we will soon be without three active members to > form a functional PMC, it's time to put this to a vote. 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