Great. I assuming no one else has any strong objections. If not, I'll be glad to start driving this. I'm not sure about the licensing issues... I'll shoot of a note to the eclipse folks.

Thanks.

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
I think it would be great to have it here.

Question - we would need to have it re-licensed under the Apache License v2.0. Is that possible?

geir

On Jul 29, 2005, at 9:28 PM, Sachin Patel wrote:

Hello all,

It seems as if a decision needs to be made to determine the appropiate place to host the Eclipse tooling support for Geronimo, in particular the Geronimo Server Adapter that is currently in development in the Eclipse - WTP project.

http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-gerplug/

As I've made enhancements to this Geronimo tooling support, I've been forced to pull in Geronimo runtime dependencies, for access not only to the Geronimo runtime itself but to JEE spec jars.

Discussions have arose as I've been working with the Eclipse WTP team to push these changes in. It is their belief that if this server adapter is pulling in third party jars then it falls under the category of being a full-fledged adapter that is too large to host and be a part of WTP. The existing adapters for the other application servers that are included in WTP are lightweight and serve primarily as examples for basic support. There has been some discussion planning to provide the JMX jars and a set of utilties as part of WTP that other server adapters can exploit. However this is not expected until WTP 1.5 in June 06 at the earliest. This is not good for the Geronimo community. We need an immediate place to host this source so the community can have the latest source to start using, opening bugs and feature requests, and contributing to it. As everyone works hard toward the completion of the Geronimo's first release it would be great if we had a good start for tooling support to go along with 1.0.

So the first decision we need to come to is where should this be hosted? The first option is creating a sourceforge project and build a secondary community around it. The other, is to host on Apache itself as part of the Geronimo project. The latter I feel is a much better option as by simply including it as part of the Geronimo project itself, it provides a much stronger integration statement to the existing community. So the Apache Geronimo project would include not only the development of server itself but also the tooling that goes along with it.

So the proposal is that we create a seperate branch for tooling in subversion and host the source there. The next step would be to provide the build and packaging infrastructure to go around it and to be able to pull down dependencies to build which include Eclipse, WTP, and of course the Geronimo runtime itself.

Thoughts, objections, comments???

Thank you,

Sachin.




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