David Jencks wrote:
After a lot of discussion about the virtual-host configuration, Aaron, Jeff and I think that the best way to proceed is to have xml schemas for container specific configuration and include the virtual host in the container specific config. This will replace the current name/property container specific config.

Why put the virtual host into container specific config? well, the meaning of specifying "virtual-host" in jetty and tomcat are really different. In tomcat this is a reference to a preconfigured list of host + multiple aliases, and if will fail if the host is not already configured. In jetty, this simply adds the VH string to some routing code inside jetty. If we reused the same syntax for both containers, you would get surprising results whenever you switched containers unless you were very aware of the different meanings.

How will the proposed container specific config work? I'll add an any element in the geronimo-web schema, and each builder will look for its own namespace and interpret it as appropriate. This will allow one plan to be deployed on multiple web containers.


comments?


I'd ask that we settle on something once and for all. This was changed once from container-specific to generic (breaking every existing plan), changed again to add in container-specific options, and now we're changing yet again having cut a release somewhere in the middle.

Before rushing to implementation, can we please put some more consideration and discussion into up-front design.

On the technical front, I remain uncomfortable with a single generic namespace as there is no way for the deployment system to tell what the target container will be. If the plan contains both Tomcat and Jetty configuration information, which one should the deployer pick as a target especially if it is capable of targeting both. Further, the output of deployment here cannot be determined using just the information in the plan - it also depends on which web-container builder gets loaded by the deployer. This means you can get different and incompatible output bundles with the same configId.

Rather than adding in extension elements, I think we should consider subclassing the generic schema for each container adding in as first class elements the items for that schema. We would then get something like:

<web-app xmlns="http://geronimo.apache.org/xml/ns/web";
         configId="MyWebApp">

    <some-generic-setting ... />
</web-app>

<web-app xmlns="http://geronimo.apache.org/xml/ns/web/jetty";
         xmlns:web="http://geronimo.apache.org/xml/ns/web";
         configId="MyWebAppOnJetty">

    <web:some-generic-setting ... />
    <jetty:some-jetty-setting ... />
</web-app>

<web-app xmlns="http://geronimo.apache.org/xml/ns/web/tomcat";
         xmlns:web="http://geronimo.apache.org/xml/ns/web";
         configId="MyWebAppOnTomcat">

    <web:some-generic-setting ... />
    <tomcat:some-tomcat-setting ... />
</web-app>

The first would result in a configuration that could run on any web container, the last two would produce configurations that would run on a specific web container. Applications would typically use the first form unless they needed container-specific functionality (which would also mean that they needed that specific container at runtime).

I included the namespace qualifiers for clarity. I believe that suitable use of schema imports would mean that they could be removed simplifying the XML form used by users. It may be harder for us to implement, but I think ease-of-use is more important here than ease-of-implementation.

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Jeremy

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