Re: M5 Time ;-)

[Joe Bohn]

I think are a number of things that folks are assuming will be included implicitly WRT the console.  We should make those explicit. Here is an initial list : - Console support for Tomcat equivalent to that provided for Jetty.  (is this really required?) - Completion or removal of the place holders that have been created for several items in the navigation area.  There are several JIRAs created for these but they don't cover all of the place holders. - General clean-up and simplification of the console.  <soapbox>  I think there is way more stuff there than a normal user would want or need to see and it will just confuse them.  We need to make this information less visible for the typical user (those installing and managing their own applications on a daily basis after the initial configuration is complete) but still have it available for PD and developers and system architects.   I think we could cover some of this under GERONIMO-788 and some more specific JIRAs yet to be created.  I have some other proposals that I will submit with new JIRAs.  This will naturally be a never-ending effort but I would like to see if we can make some progress prior to M5.</soapbox> If there is agreement on these general items then I will try to be more specific and create the appropriate JIRAs and start Joe Jeff Genender wrote: Hello community, I have decided (with goading from certain team members) to step up and be the goat herder on getting out M5.  This is likely due to this release being the Tomcat coming out party ;-)  I will be aided by Bruce Snyder and David Blevins, both my copilots, but it looks like I will be the captain on this one...yikes!  So bear with me in any faux pas I may bring along the way. This will be the kick off email...so lets start with a few basic questions. 1) When do we want to release M5?  I mean this from a concrete date perspective.  I would like to see an official 9/9/2005 date. 2) What do we want as part of the M5 release.  I ask that we break this down into A) Must haves, B) Nice to haves, C) Fuhgetaboutit. 3) I would like to see the M5 cut with a 5 day window between QA code freeze and release.  Thus QA cut on 9/4. Does this sound reasonable? Any other issues, lets make em a part of this thread. Thanks, Jeff -- Joe Bohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot