I think one needs to understand the principle of design. To look at the issue subjectively and not emotionally. Once emotions are attached then is no longer a design and more a personal issue.

All I was trying to do here is to educate this community to look at the logo's subjectively and not with emotions.  

My intentions are not to offend rather to educate.

I am sorry if educating is seen as offensive.







On 10/9/05, Jeff Genender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


J wrote:
> Now whether I have or have not created a logo for this particular
> contest is irrevelant. I am just concerned about reading about this push
> if you all will for 2-3 logo's that quite honestly are not good and well
> just seem like they had no thought behind them.

This seems awfully opinionated and is a bit condescending to the
community.  Are you saying the community has rotten taste and doesn't
pick logos that have "thought" behind them?  I personally find this
statement offensive.

>
> A logo is a statement. A logo is an item with thought. And a handful of
> these logo's look more like an in the box concept that just steroetypes
> Native American's then actually helps the apache project out.

What do you call the Apache feather then?  I am sorry, but that feather
is obviously attached to a form of native american image.  Do you feel
this way about the current Apache logo?

>
> So the main question is this will there be a real vote with real time
> opporutnity to see results for all the logo's or just wait until #11
> gets picked because well it sucks, not well thought out and a good
> number of you like it for some unknown, ungodly reason?

Is there a reason this type of verbage needs to be used?  Can we engage
without showing disrespect?  IMHO, I think we don't need to rate
people's taste factor.  Again, I find this particularly offensive.

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