Re: [VOTE] accept donation of a business process engine into the ServiceMix project

[Alan D. Cabrera]

Let me jump in here and say that I have to agree w/ Dims, Noel, et al here. We should be focusing on a good vendor experience not wrangling with new and "improved" ways to extend the incubation process, i.e. incubating under an incubating sub-project.  To be frank, our new guests are scratching their heads.  The incubation process has been honed over the years and is light but adequate.  Sybase has explicitly expressed a desire for their technology donation to start in ServiceMix but I'm sure that Geronimo will do.  I'll file the requisite paperwork.  Let's focus on the *technical* merits of the donation.  Let's move on. Regards, Alan On 2/3/2006 7:53 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Then start the BPEL project under Geronimo. *NOT* under ServiceMix. -- dims On 2/3/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 3 Feb 2006, at 15:08, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 James Strachan wrote: Incidentally its worth looking at other projects at Apache like Agila and various projects on http://ws.apache.org like EWS, Mirae, Muse, WSRF, TSIK etc which are kinda quiet, some near dormant. No, it is not worth looking at them, if the intent is to use them as precedents of a process some are finding objectionable. Saying, 'They did it so why can't we?' is not appropriate. I guess I didn't explain myself well there at all Ken sorry. (I'm full of cold :( ). I was just trying to say I'd rather see large, successful communities form first, then if need be parts of the project are split off if they become so wildly successful by themselves. So I was trying to show some examples of projects which maybe could have benefited from starting inside a larger, less granular project/community first rather than starting small and dwindling then being merged back together again due to inactivity. e.g. both Geronimo and Jakarta Commons have a broad range of components inside them - many of which are reusable by themselves - in both cases the courser grained projects helped grow a larger more diverse community IMHO. James ------- http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/ -- Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/