Thanks for the discussion. I filed a JIRA to track usability improvement in G3.0 for now.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-4950 Jeff C On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:33 PM, chi runhua <chirun...@gmail.com> wrote: > If there is no objection, I'd like to file a JIRA to record the usability > improvements/enhancement for 3.0. > > About the technical approach, Pluto or Felix web console, IMHO it's about > how to achieve these improvements, therefore we can discuss it in another > thread. :-) > > > > Jeff C > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Donald Woods <dwo...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Agree that we need some usability improvements (I tried in the past but it >> was rejected....) but not for 2.2 if it is going to delay work on the 3.0 >> server. >> >> Also, I wouldn't spend a lot of time rewriting existing portlets until we >> decide what the base admin console will be, as I think you'll end up at >> different implementation decisions/limitations if we use the Karaf admin >> console vs. Pluto 2.... >> >> >> -Donald >> >> >> Shawn Jiang wrote: >> >>> No matter what technology we might choose to implement console. #1,2,3 >>> metioned by Jeff are doable without large effort, and could bring a >>> considerable improvement on the usability of current console. I even think >>> we can get these done in G2.2.X but not only for G3.0. >>> >>> I suggest to open a JIRA to track the console usability issue while >>> keeping the console tech choosing discussion onoging. >>> >>> Comments ? >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Donald Woods <dwo...@apache.org<mailto: >>> dwo...@apache.org>> wrote: >>> >>> I'd like to have the discussion of "Do we use the Felix Admin >>> Console vs. Pluto" first.... >>> >>> Personally, I think we need to focus on getting a Little-G minimal >>> equivalent working on trunk first (which doesn't include any Admin >>> Console) before we worry with all of the Console based plugins. >>> >>> >>> -Donald >>> >>> >>> >>> chi runhua wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> Long time ago there was a discussion[1] on whether we could >>> re-org admin console to improve user experiences for 2.2, which >>> was cancelled for some reason, since we are now in the begining >>> of big change of Geronimo architecture, I think it's a good >>> opportunity that we bring this up and also for the coming 3.0 >>> release. >>> >>> [1] >>> >>> http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Reorg-of-Admin-Console-for-2.2-td20628217s134.html >>> >>> Here are couples of thoughts in my mind to improve the console: >>> 1. re-constructure the navigation tree to make it collapsible, >>> the tree level should be less than 3; >>> 2. re-orginize the avaliable tree items into new groups, for >>> this one I'd like to vote +1 for what Jack had proposed in the >>> previous thread; >>> + Servers >>> + Application Server >>> - Geronimo Kernel (put Information, Java System Info, Thread >>> Pool and Shutdown portlets in the same page here) >>> - Web Server >>> - JMS Server >>> - EJB Server >>> - DB server >>> - Repository >>> - New server assembly >>> + Applications >>> - Deploy New (Suggest to merge in the plan creator, so that >>> users can either choose to use an existing plan file, or create >>> a new one using the wizard) >>> - User applications (merge WAR, EAR and Client, maybe bundles >>> in the 3.0?) >>> - Server plugins >>> + Resources >>> - DB pools >>> - JMS resources >>> - JEE Connectors >>> - Jar Aliases >>> + Security >>> - Users and Groups >>> - Keystores >>> - Certificate Authority >>> - Security Realms >>> + Monitoring and Troubleshotting >>> - Monitoring >>> - Logs >>> - Debug Views >>> 3. re-construct the available portlets to improve embedded >>> assistance information, for example, show breadcrum when user is >>> working on a task; reduce in-line text on the current UI, and >>> use hover-help or pop-up help page only when necessary etc... >>> 4. for the long list on the current UI such as system modules, >>> only show the most frequently used ones, use locate/find to >>> display more.... >>> >>> Any comments? >>> >>> Jeff C >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Shawn >>> >> >
