On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Jarek Gawor wrote:

> My main concern is that if we move the JCDI and Bean Validation
> porting code to public svn location then we will effectively have two
> mailing lists for discussing tck issues, two jira places for filing
> and tracking tck challenges, possibly two wiki places for tck info,
> etc. And we will have to be extra careful to discuss a given tck
> problem on the right list... and sooner or later somebody will use the
> wrong list.
> Yes, it would be nice to have this stuff in open but I'm just
> wondering how much headache it will be to keep track of it all and
> maintain it.

I think its going to be significantly harder to maintain out in the open and 
there is much more likelyhood of slips in talking about NDA stuff on public 
lists, but I don't think we have any good argument for keeping the harnesses 
for these tcks in the private svn.  IMO ideally all the tcks would be public so 
I feel a bit morally obligated to put anything that can be public, in public.

thanks
david jencks
> 
> Jarek
> 
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:44 AM, David Blevins <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Currently we have these setup in the private svn where the Java EE TCK 
>> porting modules live.  The JCDI and Bean Validation TCKs are public Apache 
>> licensed, so we could move the porting modules for those two TCKs into our 
>> public svn.
>> 
>> The part of my brain that finds esthetic pleasure in filling cabinets likes 
>> everything all organized in the one VM, but the part of me that likes to be 
>> more public than private thinks it's unnecessarily restrictive to make 
>> people sign the Sun/Apache NDA to get access to things not under that 
>> restriction.  Specifically, everyone in the related communities 
>> (OpenWebBeans, OpenEJB) could easily access the public TCKs.  Mark and 
>> Gurkan fall into that category now.  Both are in the process of getting NDAs 
>> filled, but we could definitely speed that up by opening the porting code to 
>> the public.
>> 
>> We might even be able to work the JCDI and Bean Validation into our larger 
>> test suite right in the main build as they only take a moments to run.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> -David
>> 
>> 

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