Ok, let's do it then.

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2018-03-23 21:22 GMT+01:00 Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>:

> Hi guys,
>
> seems there is no -1 so any objection to create the repo next week?
>
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> 2018-03-19 8:29 GMT+01:00 Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>:
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>> +1 to host jwt-auth @G whatever tomee does.
>>
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>> 2018-03-19 4:09 GMT+01:00 David Blevins <[email protected]>:
>>
>>> Ah.  My intention was a +1 would mean "We should create new JWT module
>>> in Geronimo now, regardless of what TomEE is discussing."
>>>
>>> Not "can we ever" in a general sense, but should we do it right now.
>>>
>>> If someone would like to wait a bit longer, they should not vote +1.  It
>>> could still happen later of course.
>>>
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>> > On Mar 18, 2018, at 7:32 PM, John D. Ament <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Just to make sure I understand.  a +1 on this to me means there may be
>>> a module created in geronimo.  Maybe not.  But either way it shouldn't stop
>>> what TomEE is doing.
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 8:59 PM David Blevins <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > My vote would be -0 and I hesitate even for a negative anything.
>>> >
>>> > I think the "Geronimo will do it anyway, collaborate or not"
>>> perspective feels a bit like an ultimatum.  That said, if people truly do
>>> want to move on regardless of what happens in TomEE, that's exactly what
>>> should happen.
>>> >
>>> > I feel strongly that a project should not be obstructed by other
>>> projects who feel ownership over an domain, be forced to collaborate, or
>>> otherwise be stopped in their tracks.
>>> >
>>> > Here's how I'd like my vote read:
>>> >
>>> >  - Waiting to see what TomEE decides or creates would be ideal in my
>>> mind, but not necessary if there is support for moving forward
>>> >
>>> >  - I wouldn't help, but I wouldn't stand in the way
>>> >
>>> >  - I continue to have reservations naming reusable components after a
>>> dead app server.  I managed to have all my best efforts remain perfectly
>>> invisible under the name "OpenEJB" and "EJB."  If people want to put effort
>>> into reforming the 15 year-old Geronimo brand, they are welcome to do so,
>>> but I can't sign up for that again.  I can't pretend this isn't a
>>> significant obstacle.
>>> >
>>> >  - I continue to feel we'd be stronger together (TomEE and Geronimo).
>>> With these false lines making everyone have to get commit twice and hiding
>>> our best work under a dead website and brand, we aren't getting the
>>> strength and speed we need.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > As long as I feel understood, not pushed into doing something I don't
>>> want to do, I'm more than happy.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -David
>>> >
>>> > > On Mar 18, 2018, at 5:05 PM, David Blevins <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Two votes are up in the TomEE community on what to do with PR #123 (
>>> https://github.com/apache/tomee/pull/123 ).  The first vote is if TomEE
>>> should merge it.  The second vote is if TomEE should attempt to extract it.
>>> > >
>>> > > It was said 3-4 times in the discussion between both communities
>>> "geronimo will have a jwt-auth impl."  This is absolutely ok, there is no
>>> rule that two projects cannot do the same or similar thing.  Apache Tamaya
>>> exists and there is a Geronimo Config, both aim at MicroProfile Config
>>> compliance.  This is OK by ASF standards and one community is not judged
>>> good or bad for choosing to also implement something.
>>> > >
>>> > > That said, decisions like this should be made by the project
>>> clearly.  Some people may want to move ahead now.  Some people may want to
>>> wait and see how things go with TomEE.
>>> > >
>>> > > Vote: Move ahead with creating a reusable JWT module
>>> > >
>>> > > +1 Let's get on this, now.  There may be two impls, but that's ok.
>>> > > -+0
>>> > > -1 Let's wait / maybe later / other
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > -David
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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