All fair points, but 

a.) I don't want to host org.eclipse sources at Apache
b.) We can just ship a PR to add those features over there
c.) point 4 should not be the case.

So I'd vote -1

LieGrue,
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> Am 04.06.2018 um 09:09 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> we have 4 MP implementations I think (failsafe, config, jwt-auth and 
> opentracing) and 2 of them reused eclipse api jar and 2 uses a geronimo 
> flavor.
> 
> I'd like us to discuss which flavor we want to align all of them.
> 
> The fact to reuse the API reduces the code we hosts which is not bad but has 
> these drawbacks:
> 
> 1. when a loader is involved we can't enhance it for our consumers (like 
> aries) to be compatible with other mecanism than plain java standalone (+ 
> standard java(ee) mecanism like lib/<spec>.properties which is sometimes used 
> in users land)
> 2. geronimo always provided a good entry point to be OSGi friendly. I saw 
> that some MP@eclipse jar provided some OSGi work but they rely on a 
> dependency we don't want in all not OSGi apps + they don't embrace what our 
> consumers do (spifly+javacontract we will merge soon)
> 3. it is very slow to have an eclipse release (opentracing and jwt auth were 
> a pain and even led to use tck in snapshot to launch the release after having 
> waited weeks)
> 4. if there is some default hardcoded (dont think it is the case yet but it 
> can likely be appended in 1 to be consistent with the javaee/jakartaee 
> behavior) then we will want to put our default and not the RI one
> 
> At the end the cost to have the spec jar is almost nothing to not say really 
> nothing so I'm in favor of ensuring we always host it.
> 
> Romain Manni-Bucau
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