Not sure I'm following Mark, EPL is fine for us (
https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html) and G spec jars are not
officially certified so don't change of license anytime.

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Le mer. 4 sept. 2019 à 15:07, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> a écrit :

> No, before that it was CDDL+GPL. It just moved to EPL, which is also CatB
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
> > Am 04.09.2019 um 15:06 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com
> >:
> >
> > @Mark: didn't change with jakarta donation? can you open a ticket on
> > jakartee tracker please?
> >
> > Romain Manni-Bucau
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> > <
> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance
> >
> >
> >
> > Le mer. 4 sept. 2019 à 15:04, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> a écrit
> :
> >
> >> No, this is an intended situation.
> >> When one fully passes the TCK then you get the EFSL. This 'removes' the
> >> copyleft nature of the EPL.
> >> The details are quite nested in the legal papers, but that's it
> basically.
> >>
> >> If we just upgrade our existing API to be binary compat then we have no
> IP
> >> issues.
> >>
> >> LieGrue,
> >> strub
> >>
> >>
> >>> Am 03.09.2019 um 16:37 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <
> rmannibu...@gmail.com
> >>> :
> >>>
> >>> MP license is ok (Apache2) but Jakarta is EPLs so keeps the ambiguity
> >> for us.
> >>> That said it is good to reuse the same GAV for end users so we might
> ask
> >> jakarta to double license its api jars?
> >>>
> >>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>> @rmannibucau |  Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Le mar. 3 sept. 2019 à 16:33, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> >> jlmonte...@tomitribe.com> a écrit :
> >>> Yep that was the point.
> >>> So I was asking if we should do the same yes or not.
> >>>
> >>> That seems to be your opinion Romain.
> >>> Mark on the other end is having some doubts about the license.
> >>> --
> >>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> >>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> >>> http://www.tomitribe.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 4:31 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
> rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Le mar. 3 sept. 2019 à 16:29, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> >> jlmonte...@tomitribe.com>
> >>> a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks Romain. I'm fine with using Eclipse jars if from a legal point
> >> of
> >>>> view, it works.
> >>>> Otherwise, I'd like to split our spec jars.
> >>>>
> >>>> What about MicroProfile?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> We already agreed to not redo the API and use microprofile jars.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> It's the same license and we are using them in our MicroProfile
> >>>> implementations.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> >>>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> >>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 4:26 PM Mark Struberg
> <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid
> >>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> depends what their license is. EPL is (weak) copyleft. Thus I would
> >> like
> >>>>> to avoid exposing it downstream as api.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> LieGrue,
> >>>>> strub
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Am 03.09.2019 um 16:20 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If we still can't reuse jakata artifacts (their license is ok and
> >> there
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>> no impl reference inside so we should just use them, right?) it
> >> sounds
> >>>>>> natural
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
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> >>>>> https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
> >>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> >>>>>> <
> >>>>>
> >>
> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Le mar. 3 sept. 2019 à 16:18, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> >>>>> jlmonte...@tomitribe.com>
> >>>>>> a écrit :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I was digging into some other specifications and see what would
> >> pass
> >>>>>>> Jakarta TCK and realized that geronimo-security_1.0_spec content
> >>>>> actually
> >>>>>>> mixes 2 specifications.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/security-api
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jaspic
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I thought the initial intent was to create a specific artifact per
> >>>>>>> specification.
> >>>>>>> Mixing them is a bit annoying from a certification perspective.
> >>>>>>> It's also not clean because in Tomcat for instance, there is
> >> already
> >>>>>>> jaspic API so it becomes a duplicate.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Would it be possible to split them up in 2 artifacts?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> >>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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